Originally Posted By DisneySuiteFreak Do any of you know exactly which restaurants offer the Premium AP discounts and what the amount is? Do all the stores offer a PAP discount? If not, do you know which ones do? Do they offer the discounts on the outdoor vending carts and informal dining places? It says on their website that some Downtown Disney locations have "Exclusive benefits." Do any of you know what that means, what the benfits are and what places downtown offer these benefits? I am seriously debating getting a PAP for my next trip. I know about the deluxe AP, but don't want to deal with blockout dates. In looking at Disneyland.com, it seems that the PAP offers a lot more discounts than the DAP. Anybody want to weigh in? I'm just trying to figure out if it's worth the $$ or not. So far it seems like it is, especially if I can get in one more trip in the following year once I activate the AP. (I don't live in California...) Thanks.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer There is a very good list at Disneyland.com, but you can't access it unless you actual have an AP, the next best list is from MouseSavers.com... <a href="http://www.mousesavers.com/dltickets.html#annual" target="_blank">http://www.mousesavers.com/dlt ickets.html#annual</a> >>Disneyland Annual Passholders get meal discounts at Disneyland Resort. Unless otherwise specified, discounts apply to the Passholder and the Passholder's dining party. Not valid at outdoor cart locations, snack locations, Club 33, Napa Rose, and Room Service locations. Dining discounts are not valid in combination with any other discounts or promotions and exclude alcoholic beverages, tax and gratuity. Southern California Select Passport, Southern California Annual Passport and Deluxe Annual Passport holders get 10% off meals at virtually all dining locations, including most Disneyland, Disney's California Adventure and Disney hotel restaurants, as well as Downtown Disney restaurants. Premium Annual Passholders get 15% off meals at virtually all dining locations in Disneyland, Disney's California Adventure and Disney hotels, and 10% off at most Downtown Disney restaurants. Must show valid Annual Passport to receive Passholder benefits and/or discounts. An Annual Passholder must present his/her valid Annual Passport prior to purchases to receive any applicable benefits and discounts. Benefits and discounts are nontransferable. Subject to change without notice. << >>Disneyland Annual Passholders get nice merchandise discounts at the Disneyland Resort. A single $10 transaction required before tax. Not valid in combination with any other discounts or promotions or on purchases of original and limited-edition artwork or selected collectibles. Excludes the following locations: Names Unraveled, Jewel of Orleans, Silhouette Artist, Portrait artists in New Orleans, Parasol cart, Heraldry shop, Crystal shops on Main Street and in New Orleans and Blast cart. Premium Annual Passport holders get 10% off merchandise at most shops in Disneyland, Disney's California Adventure and Disney hotels as well as Downtown Disney shops, including World of Disney and Marceline's Confectionery. Southern California Select Passport, Southern California Annual Passport and Deluxe Annual Passport holders get 10% off merchandise at most Downtown Disney shops, except World of Disney and Marceline's Confectionery. Must show valid Annual Passport to receive Passholder benefits and/or discounts. An Annual Passholder must present his/her valid Annual Passport prior to purchases to receive any applicable benefits and discounts. Benefits and discounts are nontransferable. Subject to change without notice.<<
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<it seems that the PAP offers a lot more discounts than the DAP. Anybody want to weigh in? I'm just trying to figure out if it's worth the $$>> Blockout dates aside, the difference in price between a DAP and a PAP is $120, so you would have to spend an $1200 in food or merchandise for the PAP to start making it worth more than a DAP. Off the top of my head the extra discounts the PAP offers is free parking and an extra 5% off on dining.
Originally Posted By DisneySuiteFreak trekkeruss you do have a point, but for me anyway, I checked the dates, and for the most part I normally can only travel during the block out dates. For my upcoming January trip there are no blockout dates, but then later on in the year when I would go, there are blockouts. At the very least, I'll use it again in December of 2008 before it expires and it'll be during the blockout season that's why I can't risk getting the DAP. It's not worth it to have to pay an extra $30 a day...Unless it's possible to upgrade the DAP to a PAP if and when I need to do so. Is that a possibility? Of course by then, they'll raise the rates again probably, right? It seems like there are more places that honor the PAP discounts than the DAP. I know I read here somewhere that the PAP gets discounts even on the outdoor vending places, unless it was posted as a joke. The verbiage is kind of confusing at the mousesavers site. First it says, "Not valid at outdoor cart locations, snack locations, Club 33, Napa Rose, and Room Service locations." Then it says, "Premium Annual Passholders get 15% off meals at virtually all dining locations in Disneyland, Disney's California Adventure and Disney hotels, and 10% off at most Downtown Disney restaurants." We rarely sit down at restaurant for a meal, so if the ODV and snack places like French Market or Riverbelle Terrace or Bengal BBQ doesn't honor the discount then it may not be worth it for me to get the PAP... So do any of you know if they actually honor the discount at these informal/casual type places? Thanks...
Originally Posted By SuzieQ No, outdoor vending does not give discounts to ANY AP. Inside the park, the places that give discounts are all the same locations. The difference is a PAP gets 15% versus 10% for lower level APs. Only the PAP gets the 10% merchandise discount. French Market, Riverbelle Terrace and Bengal are not considered "snack places" they are restaurants and give the discount. ODV does not.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer NOBODY gets a discount at ODV carts, CM's, AP's, nobody, there are no registers, and prices are rounded off to make life easy on the CM working the ODV cart. If a Food location offers a discount, then ALL AP's get a discount, the Premium AP's just get a higher percentage in the parks. French Market, Riverbelle Terrace and Bengal BBQ all will honor the AP discount. But the Corn Dog Stand on Main Street and the Ice Cream Stand doesn't. Yes, it is confusing, but it is better than the system they had a few years ago, then only selected restaurants would give you a Discount, it was hard to remember. This way, the vast majority of places give you one.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I'll let Darkbeer answer about ODV Food, but I do not think there is any discount with either AP. You *do* get a 10% discount on ODV souvenirs, like if you bought pins, but only if you spend at least $10. FWIW, the biggest benefit of a PAP is not having to worry about blockout dates or whether or not you get the max discount. That to me makes it worth it, even if I don't get the actual difference back in the price over the DAP.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer ^Actually, it depends, the Pin Carts have cash registers, and will honor the PAP discount. But the Glow carts and the balloons don't have registers, therefore, rounded prices and no discounts. Basically the key is the cash register and charging tax, if that is true, then the vast majority of the time you will get a discount, the exception are things like the Parasol Cart in NOS, which is an outside vendor.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss Thanks for the extra info, Darkbeer. I learn something new every day. Not that it matters; I don't buy any of those junkie souvenirs. LOL.
Originally Posted By DisneySuiteFreak Cool, thanks for all the info everyone. Now I know -- no register, no discount. Is it possible tp upgrade the DAP to PAP if I need to use it on a blockout day before it expires?
Originally Posted By Darkbeer Yes, you can upgrade at any time, the one thing you need to know, you will pay the full difference between what you paid and the current price of the new AP, and you keep the same expiration date. For example, you buy and activate a Deluxe AP today for $239, then in December, you decide you need a Premium AP, you pay the $120 (maybe more), but the new AP still expires August of 2008.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I can't imagine they wouldn't want to take extra money fro you. But I don't think you would get any prorating on the upgrade. It would still be a $120 difference, even if you had the DAP for however many weeks or even months. Again, I'll wait and see what Darkbeer says.
Originally Posted By DisneySuiteFreak Thank you both for your input and advice. I'll probably just get the PAP -- that way I'm forced to plan another trip and get my money's worth!
Originally Posted By TinksBestFriend Easy way to find out if a discount is available...just the the CM. Always ask, if you don't ask you will not get it.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer ^Just be NICE about it, some AP holders act like the should get a discount EVERYWHERE, and treat it like a demand, instead of a question... Asking the question "I am an AP holder, am I eligible for a discount here?" is one correct way of doing it...
