Cancellations?

Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt

I've been hearing a lot about room cancellations at WDW so I thought I'd take a look. Well, since I have the afternoon off I took at look on the WDW site, went to reservations, put in my dates for Dec & guess what..
Contemporary - NOT AVAILABLE
Poly - NOT AVAILABLE
POR - NOT AVAILABLE
PORQ - NOT AVAILABLE
GF - NOT AVAILABLE
WL - you guessed it NOT AVAILABLE!!
Well Boardwalk IS available!! I did not check any of the All Stars since If you get 7 nites for $ of 4..I would live it up. So, I disagree with the crashing economy rumor!!

 

Originally Posted By fkurucz

What part of December? I would expect Christams to booked, regardsless of the economy.

<<So, I disagree with the crashing economy rumor!!>>

Rumor? Check out this link. Not even mighty Toyota is immune.

<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/business/economy/19ports.html?_r=2&ref=business" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11...business</a>

 

Originally Posted By fkurucz

Also, I was able to find available Disney resort rooms on Expedia for all of December.

 

Originally Posted By sjhym33

Disney Cast Christmas Celebration is currently going on and Cast Members get 60% off rooms till just before Christmas. I think that is why December is full

 

Originally Posted By jkayjs

Who says they are full, it says "unavailable". The only thing it means is that the # of rooms the resort delegates to itself might be full.

As fkurucz mentioned they are available on Expedia. Most if not all hotels divey up blocks of rooms amoung outside groups that sell them usually @ discounted rates. Expedia, hotwire, the airline industry sites, etc.

I'm sure even WDW travel company holds back a certain # of rooms for whatever reason. So even if their website say unavailable that doesn't mean there aren't unbooked rooms.

BTW unavailable hotel rooms that may have been booked as much as a year ago doesn't make the economic instabilities of late a rumor. It simply means folks planned a trip during better times.

 

Originally Posted By -em

>>It simply means folks planned a trip during better times.<<

I think what they are finding (with the extensive Merch discounts they have out right now..) is that people are still coming they are just spending less while here... Instead of spending 500 on souvenirs its now 100, instead of eating all sit down its now all quick service etc.

I hit DTD last week to get the holiday pins and actually saw a great deal of open parking spaces in the A lot (one closest to Once Upon) which is very rare..

 

Originally Posted By vbdad55

<So, I disagree with the crashing economy rumor!!<

rumor ? oh my !

 

Originally Posted By MPierce

>> So, I disagree with the crashing economy rumor!! <<

I only wish it were a rumor. While a lot of folks have not really been effected, a larger number have. I'm just hoping we don't enter a prolonged period of deflation.
I really don't think I would want to be the one to tell the family "Hey that trip we planned all year for to WDW for Christmas is off. The question now is how well will bookings go for next Christmas.

Also I suggest you call Disney, and see what you can find open now.

 

Originally Posted By vbdad55

Dow at 5 year low after today.....I agree on the deflation - really hope we don't go that direction-- the last time led tothe great depression and 25 % unemployment etc

 

Originally Posted By fkurucz

I think that we will probably see deflation for about a year. In the meantime gov'ts areound the world will borrow and print money to spend on massive public works projects, to counteract rising unemployment, which will probably lead to inflation.

 

Originally Posted By kennect

For the moment I am sure that WDW will have a great holiday season...It is the few months following that is what concerns me....Looking at bookings and availability through the end of the year I don't think will show any thing of value to the overall pic. of things to come....

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

what one finds doing a cursory look at dates on one site is absolutely NO indication as to the health of the economy or how it's affecting WDW ... I've heard that Disney is getting MANY people calling and booking new ressies with the stay 4, get 3 free deal ... almost as many as the folks cancelling previously made ressies for December and beyond.

I've also heard from an insider that Disney execs are holding back even larger blocks of rooms than normal as they try and gauge how certain offers and discounts are affecting bookings.

As I've said before if the computers show only 500 rooms at a 2,000 room resort and all of them are sold it doesn't mean the resort is sold out or at 100% occupancy ... all it means is 500 rooms have been put out into inventory and are booked.

as to the economy ... well, I recall saying back in June, prior to heading off to China, that we were in danger of entering a depression and was largely laughed off and told by some that we weren't even in a recession ... funny how often I hear the 'D' word these days ... and that is very depressing!

 

Originally Posted By fkurucz

<<well, I recall saying back in June, prior to heading off to China, that we were in danger of entering a depression and was largely laughed off and told by some that we weren't even in a recession >>

IIRC, Mr. X, myself and a few others did agree with you.

 

Originally Posted By MPierce

>> as to the economy ... well, I recall saying back in June, prior to heading off to China, that we were in danger of entering a depression and was largely laughed off and told by some that we weren't even in a recession ... funny how often I hear the 'D' word these days ... and that is very depressing! <<

I just wrote a post that I think could have reduced my quest for a Masters degree in economics to a one year effort vs. a two. Unfortunately for the world I accidently bumped the wrong button. It is now floating around somewhere in cyberspace. If Grant Wood had spilled a glass of whiskey on American Gothic,and destroyed it, I'm sure he would not have tried to duplicate his masterpiece.
So my response to you Spirit is "LUCKY GUESS".

 

Originally Posted By vbdad55

<<<well, I recall saying back in June, prior to heading off to China, that we were in danger of entering a depression and was largely laughed off and told by some that we weren't even in a recession >>

IIRC, Mr. X, myself and a few others did agree with you.<

yep - as did I which is why I got out of Dodge stock wise early in the year in stable value --

I see a periodof deflation followed by rapid inflation and risinginterest rates which will just kill the people with credit card debt and HEL's with variable rates- - this is going to be very bad for along time folks.

 

Originally Posted By bobbelee9

Good thing we all have each other to help us get through as this mess.

 

Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom

Well, and we will always have Walt Disney World too.

 

Originally Posted By 999HAUNTS

I called WDW last week to change my December reservation from CBR to POFQ.
French Quarter was sold out Dec 12-20, but they did have rooms available at Riverside.

 

Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt

My dates were/are Dec 27- Jan3. A very busy time I know..

 

Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad

999haunts, Take the riverside. We always stay there. Request Oak Manor and that will use the last stop. Coming back we always got off at the main building and walked to our room and usually beat the bus. Also parkinglot side doesn't have air units outside them so they are more quiet.