Originally Posted By ChurroMonster Congratulations to all the "Yes on 8"ers. You fought hard, you spent a lot of money, and now you get the gratification of knowing that your marriages won't be tarnished by all those icky gay couples that wanted to join your exclusive club. It must feel really good to know thousands of people have had their dreams destroyed by your campaign. On a day when the world celebrates a symbolic victory over discrimination-the election of a black president-we show that we've just moved on to a different group of people to discriminate against. Again, congratulations. Way to go.
Originally Posted By Mr X No congratulations from me, that's for sure. It's really tragic that while one barrier of prejudice is shattered once and for all, prejudice itself simply changes outfits and continues on its' proud, vile march. Little by little, folks...I guess that's all we can hope for. Hopefully this'll hit the supreme court after President Obama has appointed a reasonable judge or FOUR, and they can take care of the issue appropriate to the workings of a FREE country. That's all I've got to say on THAT.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Yeah, this truly sucks . Honestly, 50% of the reason I voted, litterally, it was only this and the Presidential pick I was interested in and I knew Obama was picking up Calif. obviously. This blows!! I'm on a high with the Obama win, but its still a reminder that we have a lot of discrimination left in the world. It can be still fought can it?
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle Wow. This really ruined my night I'm really saddened by that. I hoped that the election today showed that self-righteous bigots might be outnumbered, but obviously I was wrong!
Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF Excellent column by Rebecca Walsh: LDS stand on Prop. 8 oozes irony <a href="http://www.sltrib.com/ci_10879061" target="_blank">http://www.sltrib.com/ci_10879061</a>
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Congratulations to all the "Yes on 8"ers. You fought hard, you spent a lot of money, and now you get the gratification of knowing that your marriages won't be tarnished by all those icky gay couples that wanted to join your exclusive club." Screw them. They lied, they cheated they twisted facts all in the name of a warped God to further their own bigoted, shameless goals. There's a special place in hell for people who lie in the name of God. They're going. With 100% reporting and over 2.6 million votes cast, it passed by less than 21,000 votes. The percentage was 50.4 to 49.6. We'll have to see if there's a recount. Meanwhile, for me, my views on church and orgnaized religion are forever changed. I'm convinced one of the biggest threats our society faces comes from within, specifically the faction of the Mormon church that supported this ban. Moreover, any faction anywhere than poured money into hate. Karma can be a bitch, and they're about to find out how bad it can be.
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Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder The vote totals in post 7 are not for the entire state, but for L.A. County alone. I thought that was strange. The overall state total was 51-49.
Originally Posted By Mr X Hey Passholder, you know something about the law I imagine... How would this scenario work. A married couple, MAN and WOMAN as per the law. One of them gets sex reassignment surgery and legally changes their gender. Would that marriage automatically be unlawful under this new bigotry? How does that work?
Originally Posted By metalman The thing I find most surprising is how black Americans were, by far, the demographic most in favor of prop 8: <a href="http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20...#CAI01p1" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20...#CAI01p1</a> I just cannot understand how they are not leading the fight of discrimination.
Originally Posted By mawnck According to all the news sites I'm checking, this hasn't been called yet.
Originally Posted By wonderingalice I was shocked when I read it this morning. I truly thought that "no" would prevail. My parents... almost 72 & 73 years old... Married for over 50 years, a perfect example of the "ideal" - voted NO. What is wrong with people?? This bites.
Originally Posted By mele Well, if anything the totals show that they've won by a smaller margin than last time. It will continue to gain momentum. Plus, now we've got to spend millions of dollars for it to be proven unconstitional. It's not over. It won't ever be over until equality wins. Just depressing that so many people are proud of their bigotry (as we've clearly seen here) and sad that so much time, energy and money that will be used just to give all citizens the equality they deserve.
Originally Posted By mele I know, DAR, and we all will. It's just sad that we have to fight to get to equal when all of that energy and money could be used to raise things above the bar. But no, we have to struggle just to be treated as equal. I truly hope that the evil churches will lose their tax free status. This is a genuine consequence of what they have done. Maybe some of their hate money will go towards something good.
Originally Posted By hopemax >Well, if anything the totals show that they've won by a smaller margin than last time. < On CNN's exit poll numbers those aged 30-39 split 50-50 25-29 60% voted No 18-24 66% No Change is coming, it just may take a little longer than it should.
Originally Posted By ecdc I echo churro's comments. A few bigots decided to impose their imaginary friend on the rest of us. But now they've invalidated any right to equal treatment themselves. I'm thrilled about Obama, but so disgusted by this. How do people sleep at night knowing there's people crying themselves to sleep tonight? And what of those gay Mormons who committed suicide? Josh and Elderp don't care about them, I suppose. Their marriages are now safe from the boogeyman, and that's all that matters.
