Originally Posted By Malin I've just seen a video that another poster over at another forum sent that shows the planets on the Buzz Lightyear float falling off and almost landing on some guest. This video shows in my opinion that OLC have let the standards slipped and why I feel they may no longer should hold the Disney licence. Credit goes to ichigopara for posting the video link. I'll post the link here through I'm not true if it will work or not on this board. <a href="http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/2008/01/0...000127_mh.html" target="_blank">http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/200 8/01/0...000127_mh.html</a> Let us know what you think
Originally Posted By Malin Link doesn't work can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong or what I need to do in order to post the link properely on here.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris Gee, if you feel the OLC should have their license stripped because a couple of styrofoam balls rolled off, imagine what should have happened to Eisner during his reign?!? HOLY CRAP!!!!
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I don't really know anything about the situation other than what you just said, but I don't think that one incident alone is worth revoking the OLC's liscense. While Disney may want to do that to get full control of the parks over there, I don't really think it's nessecary. Disney has certainly made mistakes of their own (people have died as result of accidents on several attractions in different parks), but they still operate their own parks. From what I can tell, this is just a one time thing. Sure, it's very unfortuante, but I don't really think it's reflective on the OLC as a whole. How many shows and parades do they have every day, all year long? And how many of them have injured guests? Not many.
Originally Posted By Malin Bob as it took about 6 people to lift the thing back up I don't think it was just a couple of styrofoam balls. Now how would you feel if that fell from that height on to your family who's sat watching the parade.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris I would love to be in on that meeting when snivelling Disney suit No. 1 visits the corporate HQ of the OLC. "Most Honoured OLC Chairman, we are concerned from a recent incident that the upkeep and money you are spending to ensure park quality has declined. We are looking at revoking your license to run your parks." OLC president(who looks surprisingly like the old Sulu from "Heroes")motions for an underling to raise a samurai sword that glints in the light from a nearby window. US Stooge No.'s head rolls to stop at President Sulu's polished shoes. The irony of the US division being upset at Japanese cost cutting is just TOO delicious. :rolls eyes:
Originally Posted By FerretAfros How would you feel if one of the cleats used to tie up the big boats on the river in Frontierland was torn out of place and hit your dad in the head, killing him and splattering him across the crowd? As grusome as that is, it did happen in Disneyland about ten years ago, but that park is still going strong. From the sounds of it, nobody was badly injured (if anybody was injured at all), so I don't think much will be made of it. Sure, it probably scared the you know what out of the people sitting there, but it was just an accident. Accidents happen. I would venture to guess that it's still safer to spend the day at TDL (parades included) than sitting at home watching TV all day.
Originally Posted By TDR_Fan I agree. There have been far more serious events at other Disney parks and they are still running. Fact is, the OLC probably still maintains a much safer record than the WDC.
Originally Posted By Malin You two are completely missing the point, and are down playing the situation here. Yeah lets just laugh it off and compare it too the many other accidents that all the Disney parks have had. Never mind that OLC clearly dropped the ball. The real question here is how differnt are the OLC to Disney now days?
Originally Posted By Malin TDR_FAN do you have safety records for both companies, because its a bold statement to make. By the way I'm not saying in anyway OLC is going to loose its licence, all I'm saying is that should it be allowed to use the Disney name when it puts guest in danger through neglect.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I really just think this was an accident. Accidents happen. Sure, they are very unfortunate, but it happens. From the sounds of it, nobody was injured, so it's actually one of the better accidents to have. While I don't think we should encourage this by any stretch of the imagination, there is really no way we can expect them to be prefect. From my general experince with TDR (which is admittedly not that much), they do generally do a lot more to take care of general maintenence. I don't know how parades are maintained in any of the parks, but it seems to me that TDL rotates them enough that they probably don't need that much help during their stay (but I think this float has been around for a while). Is it bad that this happened? Yes. Is it horrible? Not really. I'm just trying to keep everything in perspective.
Originally Posted By Malin I agree that accidents do happen, I'm just bringing this to your attention to prove that the OLC are not perfect like many on here like to think. My biggest concern is that we need to treat this like a big issue and shame the OLC in hope that this was just an honest mistake made by human error and not a sign of things to come.The fact this has come a week after the tree house fire makes me worried.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Hmm...I hadn't really thought about that. I don't know of anything in the treehouse that could cause a fire, so I suspect that may have been caused by a guest (maybe the wiring for lights, but that doesn't seem very likely). Are the Japanese parks as busy as the American parks are this time of year (just about at capacity every single day)? I don't know if that would affect it any, but it might. Also, anybody know how to get the video to work?
Originally Posted By Malin Pop by YouTube and enter the words TDL in the serch box. When it loads the screen up click on most recent. It should take you to a number of videos highlighting the accident. I would just like to add how well I felt the TDR Castmembers as well as the parade performers handled the difficult situation.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Bob as it took about 6 people to lift the thing back up I don't think it was just a couple of styrofoam balls. Now how would you feel if that fell from that height on to your family who's sat watching the parade. >>> According to one of the YouTube videos the piece that fell weighed 660 lbs, so it would probably smart if it fell on your head!
Originally Posted By SuperDry And amazingly, the show went on after they cleared off the fallen part!
Originally Posted By Malin Reason why I'm upset, this came close to being something a lot more serious. And we also have to take into account how many were filming the parade at the time, this had the potential to really damage the OLC's reputation, luckily all its given them is a lot of bad publicity which most will forget about in a month or so.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Reason why I'm upset >>> You're upset that the show continued? Why? Once they determined that nobody got hurt and removed the broken piece, what purpose would be served to cancel the show? It sounds like you have a much larger issue that for some reason you don't want to fully identify and only discuss on the periphery, and are using this incident as a tool to do so.
Originally Posted By Malin No I'm upset about the unit that fell and it weighing 660 lbs, you happen to post something else before I could reply. I do however aplaud them for allowing the show to go on and if you re read my YouTube post again you will see that I made mention to the fantastic job both the performers and Castmembers did. I do hold issues over OLC for letting something like this happen in the first place but thats about it. I don't have any bigger issues with them or I wouldn't have a problem discussing them on here. I'm just not going to skip around acting like the OLC are wonderful when the comapny can let something like this happen on its watch. I'm seeing a lot of people playing the situation down here but I wonder if this incident were to happen at the Magic Kingdom if we'd get quite the same responsed here.
Originally Posted By TDR_Fan <<You two are completely missing the point, and are down playing the situation here.>> And I think you are making too big a deal out of this. You seem to be the only one all hyped up and worried about a rare albeit rather serious malfunction. That's not enough to accuse the OLC of neglect and carelessness in my opinion.
