Originally Posted By magic0214 <<very deserved as it the best since Hunchback>> Man, I wish that soundtrack was utilized more in some sort of fashion. God Help The Outcasts is in my Top 5 Favorite Disney Songs
Originally Posted By TheRedhead "Since you included Winnie the Pooh, you also have to throw in the Cheapquels." Pooh is a WDAS film. Why wouldn't you include it in a list of wide releases? I think what's sort of happening is that all of Disney's releases feel like they fall into two categories: for boys and for girls. Boys are getting cars, planes, action toys, video games, and super heroes. Girls are getting princesses. It's not very imaginative, but they are a Hollywood studio after all. Oh. And go Frozen!
Originally Posted By andyll >>WDAS lost money on Tangled - the problem with spending $275m on a feature. To be far... wasn't a good chunk of that 1 or 2 previous failed attempts that were dumped completely? Here's hoping Frozen hits 300 million this weekend. What's the chance Disney has an unnaturally high estimate tomorrow?
Originally Posted By leemac <<To be far... wasn't a good chunk of that 1 or 2 previous failed attempts that were dumped completely?>> Dumped completely? Sure there was a lot of pre-production on Tangled but that isn't unusual for a WDAS feature.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Pooh is a WDAS film.>> And Pooh had a puny budget - that thing got made for $35m. Incredible considering every feature since then from either WDAS or Pixar has begun with a 2 and then 8 additional digits. Pooh deserved a bigger audience - it was a fun movie.
Originally Posted By Megara Just saw Frozen yeaterday. I liked it. The songs were a bit lame, but otherwise okay.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I'm still not entirely sure how I feel about the music. There are a few great songs (Let It Go and For The First Time In Forever; possibly Do You Want To Build A Snowman), but the rest left no real impression on me. I can't hum the tune of the trolls' song or Olaf's song, nor did they really do a whole lot to advance the story. The native song at the beginning was interesting, but sounded too similar to Transformation from Brother Bear to not be compared, and there's really no comparison: it's just not as good. Films that have a lot of great music tend to have it all in one style, with one or two outliers. Frozen seemed to change style with nearly every song, making it tough to really get an overall feel for it. I think that it has the potential to be great, but I still haven't completely warmed up to it yet (see what I did there?)
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: As us Cauldron girls said before, the songs from FROZEN just aren't that good compared to most of the other Disney animated films out there. There's nothing that grabs us about them. Nothing all that appealing. It's a good thing the story and the characters and the animation wowed us enough or we wouldn't be as happy with the film as we are.
Originally Posted By leemac Fun roundup of some of the international versions of the songs: <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.broadwayworld.com/article/VIDEOS-Disneys-FROZEN-Remains-Red-Hot-Around-the-World-Listen-to-International-Recordings-20131229">http://www.broadwayworld.com/a...20131229</a>
Originally Posted By leemac <<I'm still not entirely sure how I feel about the music. There are a few great songs (Let It Go and For The First Time In Forever; possibly Do You Want To Build A Snowman), but the rest left no real impression on me. >> IMHO it is the best soundtrack since Hunchback. Great mix - the three you mention are phenomenal (especially in reprise). <<I can't hum the tune of the trolls' song or Olaf's song, nor did they really do a whole lot to advance the story.>> Really? Olaf's song is about his dream - I think it is a great little number (especially written for Gad). The troll song is the most humorous song I can remember for a long time - I've never heard tinkle in the woods used in a Disney movie before!
Originally Posted By leobloom >> I've never heard tinkle in the woods used in a Disney movie before! << Ah, that's what was missing from Bambi.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: We weren't impressed with the songs for Rapunzel, either, but even THEY stand out more than the songs from FROZEN. ORDDU: Of course we haven't liked anything from this particular song writing team. The songs they did for the Nemo Stage show at Animal Kingdom were equally dreadful to us.
Originally Posted By kennect No. 1 again. Amazing when compared to so many high profile pics opening during its run to date.
Originally Posted By TheRedhead "IMHO it is the best soundtrack since Hunchback." Amen. What gets me is that it is truly a great Broadway score, and yeah, we haven't seen a great Broadway score like this since Hunchback. "I can't hum the tune of the trolls' song or Olaf's song, nor did they really do a whole lot to advance the story." I thought, at first, that they were just cute numbers. But we have been playing the score in my house every day since opening weekend, and those are two songs that get sung by us the most. Give it a try and you may become addicted. My daughter loves to belt out, "And by the way, I don't see no ring!" As for advancing the story, they don't. And they don't pretend to. They're both songs you see in lots of musicals - the comic relief number and the 11 o'clock, hey-we-haven't-had-a-song-in-a while let's-do-a-fun-number (like Music Man's 'Shipoopi' or Guys and Dolls' 'Sit Down You're Rocking the Boat'). And actually, the troll number doesn't appear to do anything, but it does sum up the theme of the movie, as well as the way in which Anna is going to complete her journey - her sister needs fixing, and she's going to fix her up with love. And I think stylistically different is a great thing, and it's not like Disney hasn't done that before, specifically with their comic relief songs. "Les Poissons" is ridiculously over-the-top Frenchy, "Friend Like Me" is all Cab Calloway, "Gaston" is a bust-out drinking song. It isn't jarring to me. The song I find myself playing the most is "Love is an Open Door." I love it's funky little beat, but it still feels theatre-y. Whenever the "our mental syn-chro-ni-za-tion" line comes on, my kids drop everything and we robot dance. Because we are enormous nerds.
Originally Posted By leemac <<And I think stylistically different is a great thing, and it's not like Disney hasn't done that before, specifically with their comic relief songs. "Les Poissons" is ridiculously over-the-top Frenchy, "Friend Like Me" is all Cab Calloway, "Gaston" is a bust-out drinking song. It isn't jarring to me.>> One of the biggest issues with Menken's work is that he picks a style to pastiche and sticks with it. Sometimes his scores can be very samey - his recent musical bombs like Leap of Faith and Sister Act suffer from that shtick. It can be tiresome. Bobby's musical numbers just work for the moment - and they are great. The score also deserves a shout-out - it is Christophe Beck's best work. I was worried that Vuelie would sound a bit Brother Bear-esque but it is a wonderful piece of music.
Originally Posted By leemac <<The song I find myself playing the most is "Love is an Open Door.">> And therein lies the rub with the music - that is my least favorite song by a mile. I love For The First Time (in reprise - wonderful countermelody), Let It Go and Do You Want To Build A Snowman (in that order).
Originally Posted By leemac <<The songs they did for the Nemo Stage show at Animal Kingdom were equally dreadful to us.>> I'm amazed every time you say that Witches. I honestly can't understand why you would think the music was dreadful. There is so much heart and warmth in that show and it is driven by a tremendous musical score. Did you not like the Pooh songs either?
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance What was the song that played during the trailor of the newest Pooh movies? That song was soooooooooooo good. Was it written for Pooh?
