Originally Posted By magic0214 I went with some of my friends to see Frozen for a second time yesterday, and they all came out quoting the lines that some would call "slang-y". The fantastic "You hesitated" line from Olaf or Anna's response to "What's his best friend's name" with "Probably, John."
Originally Posted By JCMouse I saw it last week. It was sooooo good! Anna is so adorable and perky! I love her to bits. Miss Kristen did a wonderful voiceover job. Elsa's song is a shoo-in for the best song Oscar. Idina's performance was super. And one more thing....the cold never bothered me anyway.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>And one more thing....the cold never bothered me anyway.<< You obviously weren't in the same theater I was.
Originally Posted By magic0214 Okay, as far as Annie nominations go...how did Kristen Bell not get nominated for voice acting. I agree with the Josh Gad...but Kristen Bell deserved it more.
Originally Posted By mawnck If you're hoping for an Oscar for Frozen, be advised … it's not looking good. Two movies you probably haven't heard of seem to be in the lead for Best Animated Feature: <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://blogs.indiewire.com/animationscoop/awards-update-wind-rises-takes-two-ernest-celestine-captures-la-critics">http://blogs.indiewire.com/ani...-critics</a> (Spoiler: They're doing very well in the Mawnckscars too.)
Originally Posted By magic0214 Wasn't "Wreck-It Ralph" the favorite going into Oscar night, though? While I am fine with either of those two winning, Frozen still has that "I heard that was in theaters by Disney, I'm voting for Disney!" shot, right?
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Frozen still has that "I heard that was in theaters by Disney, I'm voting for Disney!" shot<< There's no such shot. Quite the contrary, actually. Disney has never won for Best Animated Feature. This is not to say Frozen CAN'T win, because it can. It doesn't have any real competition in the mainstream arena. I think it'll all depend on how much and what kind of a stink gets kicked up over The Wind Rises' inevitable nomination, and on how many Academy members can be convinced to sit their butts down and actually watch Ernest & Celestine. Anyway, here's the competition: The Wind Rises <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlaW8-2T1HI">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...W8-2T1HI</a> Ernest & Celestine <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ1rmOYLr2U">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...rmOYLr2U</a>
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <Disney has never won for Best Animated Feature.> That is true. Although 'Beauty and the Beast' was nominated for Best Picture even though it is an animated feature.
Originally Posted By andyll leemac... sometimes I think you might be too close to these movies to be good judges of them. >>It is still a very generic family animated movie.<< I'm sorry but Frozen has a shot of becoming the 3rd highest grossing domestic Disney animated film since TS3 and The Lion King. If you go to non-Disney sites you will see that people are seeing this film over and over much like they did Avatar and Titanic. 'Generic' films do not have that re-watchability like Frozen does. >> I still wish that a more talented screenwriter was involved<< Disagree. What makes this film better then Braze was that all Acts were complete. Could an extra 1/2 hour be used to better complete the characters... absolutely. But I thought they did an excellent job in explaining all the characters motivations... especially in the 1st act where they did it in a wonderful compact method. >>There are a couple of jarring moments with modern speak that were unnecessary. It just brings you straight into the present day<< Already addressed by other posters. >>Olaf worked well. I don't think he has the charm of other sidekicks but he is a nice device.<< Disagree 100 percent. Can't think of a better sidekick offhand. A woman on our Disney cruise that had an Olaf plush was almost mobbed by people asking her where she got it... it wasn't sold at any Disney Store in WDW or the cruise. >>Actually it was in an earlier version. I don't remember when it was cut but there was a desire to have interplay between Olaf and Sven that is now entirely absent.<< There was still interplay between Olaf and Sven with the carrot throughout the movie.
Originally Posted By andyll Braze = Brave To expand... Brave was a very good movie that had screenwriting issues. You can find and nitpick story issues in every movie... however Frozen was complete in all acts.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Our local JCPenney has a nice area dedicated to Disney and all the new merchandise from "Frozen" Including, a giant-sized Olaf for $500.00. Cute! Here's a photo on the JC Penney site. <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jcpenney.com/kids/disney/frozen/disney-frozen-olaf-super-size-plush/prod.jump?ppId=pp5003161539">http://www.jcpenney.com/kids/d...03161539</a>
Originally Posted By leemac <<>>It is still a very generic family animated movie.<< I'm sorry but Frozen has a shot of becoming the 3rd highest grossing domestic Disney animated film since TS3 and The Lion King. If you go to non-Disney sites you will see that people are seeing this film over and over much like they did Avatar and Titanic. 'Generic' films do not have that re-watchability like Frozen does.>> Ahem - a bit of hyperbole. You can't compare Frozen to the likes of box office behemoths like Titanic - or even stuff like Hunger Games. It isn't even close to being in the same league. I'm not sure it will achieve the heady heights of the likes of TLK, TS3 etc. However it does have a clear run to Christmas with little family competition.
Originally Posted By leemac <<leemac... sometimes I think you might be too close to these movies to be good judges of them.>> That is entirely possible - I was with the Company around the time of TLK though and I still think the likes of TLM, B&B, HOND and TLK are significantly superior animated movies. I guess the market has moved on and that type of fare just won't get approved now.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Disagree. What makes this film better then Braze was that all Acts were complete. Could an extra 1/2 hour be used to better complete the characters... absolutely. But I thought they did an excellent job in explaining all the characters motivations... especially in the 1st act where they did it in a wonderful compact method.>> If Brave is the benchmark then I shudder to think what could possibly be worse from a major CGI studio. I did think they get an excellent job compacting the story through to Let It Go - despite some skipped elements. However I think Bobby and Kirsten's music did a far better job of advancing the story than the script.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>>>It is still a very generic family animated movie.<< I'm sorry but Frozen has a shot of becoming the 3rd highest grossing domestic Disney animated film since TS3 and The Lion King.<< Welllll … the second thing doesn't exactly negate the first. And using Avatar as your example doesn't help your argument AT ALL. >>Including, a giant-sized Olaf for $500.00.<< Soon to be the albatross of someone's life.
Originally Posted By andyll >>Ahem - a bit of hyperbole. You can't compare Frozen to the likes of box office behemoths like Titanic - or even stuff like Hunger Games. It isn't even close to being in the same league.<< Please don't put words in my mouth. I didn't even suggest Frozen would become one of the top 2 grossing films of all time. I said... based on comments I see on non-Disney sites it had the same re-watchability as those films did. Can it hit 300 million? Unlikely. However, as you say, it has no competition through Christmas. It broke the Thanksgiving Animated opening record. It broke the 2nd weekend after Thanksgiving record. (traditional a slow boxoffice weekend) It does have to potential to do UP domestic numbers. A 'generic' animated film does not do that.
Originally Posted By andyll >."Despicable Me 2" did. DM2 - 367 million total and still made over a million dollars thanksgiving week even though its been out for 6 months. A film does not do that unless people see it multiple times and people see it that don't normally see a lot of movies. Lousy, formula, generic movies do not have that kind of legs. Cars II is a great example. Since it was a PIXAR movies a lot of people saw it... once. A lot of people didn't see it because of poor WOM. It WAS a lousy, formula, generic movie and the GA reacted to it that way. What made my family see DMII twice and wish we hadn't wasted our money on Cars II in the theater. Beats me. Sometimes its hard to pinpoint why a movie is good. Its usually easy to see why movies are bad. MU was enjoyable but a bit formatic and in my opinion not worth seeing twice. With Brave you could feel issues with the 3rd act and the movie just didn't seem put together right. Tangled had issues but had enough great moments and songs sprinkled though out all the acts that it was very re- watchable. I'm not saying the GA is always right. I still don't understand how Avatar sits a top the all time box office. However generic movies come and go quickly. Even a name such as Disney or Depp might generate some upfront box office success but the GA is quick to kill of the lousy movies.
Originally Posted By darcy-becker <I did think they get an excellent job compacting the story through to Let It Go - despite some skipped elements. However I think Bobby and Kirsten's music did a far better job of advancing the story than the script.> That's what's supposed to happen in a musical.
