Frozen

Originally Posted By andyll

>>And I hope the first few songs on the CD are good!

The song order follows the movie. They have the rest of the instrumental music after the songs.

 

Originally Posted By schnebs

I've been relatively restrained - I've only bought the soundtrack and the Disney Infinity Frozen set (my stepdaughter loves Elsa). I'm sure an Olaf plush will end up in our house eventually...

 

Originally Posted By CuriousConstance

"The song order follows the movie. They have the rest of the instrumental music after the songs. "

Thanks

 

Originally Posted By dagobert

I've seen Frozen twice now and I liked it even better the second time.

I wonder if the movie would have looked better in traditional animation?

 

Originally Posted By andyll

>>I wonder if the movie would have looked better in traditional animation?

They talked about that either in 'The Art of Frozen' or in some of the technical papers I read on their modeling of the snow.

They said while not impossible to some of the snow/ice effects by hand the sheer scale of the effects would have been impossible.

The 3 scenes in the Ice Palace contains some of the most amazing rendering I've seen.

 

Originally Posted By leemac

I'd recommend the deluxe soundtrack - the second disc has a lot of deleted songs, outtakes and unused score - with introduction by the Lopezes. Thankfully none of the deleted material is as good as the stuff that ended up in the final cut.

 

Originally Posted By mapleservo

ˆ Yeah, good stuff on the outtakes disk, if you're open to that kind of thing (I love the old "Music Behind the Magic" collection). I burst out laughing at the Reindeer(s) Remix.

 

Originally Posted By planodisney

Did someone call????
Actually, Frozen is the first movie to be #1 at the box office on its 36th day since Avatar. It retook the top spot over The Hobbit yesterday and will most likely be the #1 movie of the weekend.
Also, this movie,IMHO, is immensely better than Monsters University and it WILL be a huge money maker for Disney.
My wife and I and our 4 year old boy saw it for the 2nd time on Thursday night and we LOVE this movie. It has actually restored some lost love of Disney for us. We haven't seen a movie twice at the theaters in years. It should be close to or over 300 million by next weekend and will make a run at, but probably fall short of DM2's box office. Word of mouth is SERIOUSLY driving this movie now.

 

Originally Posted By EighthDwarf

I finally saw this movie on Christmas. My 10-year old son really wanted to see it (for the second time) but felt guilty about loving a "princessy movie" lol. My wife loves it too. It's interesting to see the wide appeal this movie has.

FWIW I thought it was pretty good, but I am notoriously hard to please when it comes to movies. The whole troll thing seemed forced and unnecessary and the songs were good on their own but didn't work thematically for me (they put modern pop music in a folkloristic Danish world).

I got the feeling they were trying to kill 3 birds (cash cows?) with 1 stone: make a movie that would appeal to a mass audience; create songs that could get radio play; and create a musical that could eventually hit broadway. The may have actually done it.

 

Originally Posted By TheRedhead

I'd be shocked if this weren't on Broadway in five years.

The only thing is that it's so similar to Wicked, which is still insanely popular, that I imagine every article focusing on the similarities rather than the merits of Frozen.

 

Originally Posted By FerretAfros

>>The only thing is that it's so similar to Wicked...<<

Yah, I noticed that too. Idina Menzel sure has gotten typecast into the "misunderstood magical sister" role, hasn't she? She's great at it, but there are a lot of similarities between Elsa and Elphaba...heck, even the names are similar!

 

Originally Posted By Witches of Morva

ORWEN: Well, this cauldron girl sure knows what it's like to be a misunderstood magical sister, too! I could write a book on all the verbal abuse I've had to put up with ever since the first day I was drawn!!!

ORGOCH: Set it ta music, sister! Like as if anybody gave a bat's behind...

ORWEN: See what I mean!!! And it's so unfair!!!!

 

Originally Posted By leemac

<<It should be close to or over 300 million by next weekend and will make a run at, but probably fall short of DM2's box office. Word of mouth is SERIOUSLY driving this movie now.>>

As is the dearth of family programming beyond Fox's awful Walking with Dinosaurs. It still amazes me that studios operating in such an ultra-competitive market can still miss an gilt-edged opportunity. To leave Frozen as pretty much the sole family movie for the holiday season is crazy. Yet they happily pack the summer sked full of them and wonder why stuff like Turbo ends up tanking.

 

Originally Posted By leemac

<<I'd be shocked if this weren't on Broadway in five years. >>

The problem will be recreating those environments - the sheer size and scale of Arendelle and the North Mountain are one of the reasons why it is such a spectacular movie visually. There is absolutely no way you can recreate that on stage - not even close.

Cirque tried to create a winterscape with their awful Wiktuk show at MSG - it was largely ice and projections (the synopsis was that snow hasn't arrived) and just didn't work at all.

It does remind me of DTP's failure to create a convincing under the sea environment for The Little Mermaid.

 

Originally Posted By leemac

<<Wiktuk>>

Grrr....Wintuk.

 

Originally Posted By leemac

<<Idina Menzel sure has gotten typecast into the "misunderstood magical sister" role, hasn't she? She's great at it, but there are a lot of similarities between Elsa and Elphaba>>

That was the main reason why her role as Nancy in Enchanted was cut back. Menken and Schwartz had written a wonderful song for her but it just ended up sounding very Wicked-ish. A lot of that has to do with her vocals - she has a wonderful instrument but it does get very same-y all the same - particularly on those Defying Gravity/Let It Go showstoppers.

I still can't get over what a wonderful voice Kristen Bell has - she nailed it every time in Frozen. So much more warmth than Idina's.

 

Originally Posted By mawnck

>>Yet they happily pack the summer sked full of them and wonder why stuff like Turbo ends up tanking.<<

I'm not so sure Turbo would be doing any better if it were out now.

I've always been a big advocate of the "there are MANY factors that go into a movie's success" theory, but these days, I really do think the sameness is starting to take its toll. Since the audience pretty much knows *exactly* what the movie is going to be like, they make their purchase decision based in part on how they feel about the characters they see in the trailers and TV ads. (ie "Do we want to see THESE guys go through the motions?")

I expect that, in the case of the snails, that was a "no".

 

Originally Posted By leemac

<<I'm not so sure Turbo would be doing any better if it were out now.>>

Possibly - but I still think that releasing it in late July was a mistake - still so much family stuff in theater.

DWA haven't made the smartest decisions of late with the likes of Turbo and Rise of the Guardians. I'm not sure Peabody will reverse that trend (it looks like all those William Joyce movies).

 

Originally Posted By mawnck

>>I'm not sure Peabody will reverse that trend<<

There was a turn-off-your-phone thing in front of "Walking With Dinosaurs" starring Peabody and Sherman, in which I'm pretty sure I heard the former refer to the latter as his "son". This is about as egregious a violation of the whole dynamic of this show as I can imagine.

Between that, the lazy writing of the rest of the promo, and the rather uninspiring trailer, this movie is now on my brand new "probably not worth my time" list (which is growing exponentially, seemingly by the hour). And I'm a HUGE Jay Ward fan.

 

Originally Posted By leemac

<<There was a turn-off-your-phone thing in front of "Walking With Dinosaurs" starring Peabody and Sherman, in which I'm pretty sure I heard the former refer to the latter as his "son".>>

I saw that in front of Frozen recently too. It did seem very strange.

I'm not sure they have any idea how to market this one as I've seen a couple of trailers now and they are wholly inconsistent.

I also couldn't believe that they actually used a close copy of The Lion King logo to talk up Rob's involvement.

It will be interesting to see how long Wall Street allows Katz to stay at the head of the studio if they have another mediocre performance at the box office.