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Originally Posted By leobloom

Care to explain, Hans?

 

Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

>>>Do they need "new guests"? I'm not trying to be smartalek. But, does the most popular park in the world need to keep on building<<<

Yes. They should always endeavor to expand their reach in society. Opening up who they cater to can only improve the product, in creative terms.

 

Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

>>>This is purely wishful thinking on my part, but I'm hopeful that if Fantasyland is a huge success Disney will be encouraged to make more changes and additions to the Magic Kingdom.<<<

I think that would happen in TDO actually wanted to spend in the parks. They don't. They are content to allow them to rot with minimal improvements. Hopefully Burbank/Glendale disagrees.

 

Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

>>>Why are we not sure that Avatar is coming?<<<

The very fact that the entire announcement is a nonevent and that nothing is official about it.

 

Originally Posted By Autopia Deb

I can't say the idea of an entire land devoted to the Avatar franchise ever generated much excitement for me. I'd be OK if that concept dies on the vine.

 

Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

It is doing just that, thankfully.

 

Originally Posted By Manfried

I think the Fantasyland addition is a perfectly charming addition to a theme park that is for THE ENTIRE FAMILY and not just a bunch of adults who want to pretend to be children.
Yes I took my extra strength curmudgeon pills today too.

 

Originally Posted By CuriousConstance

I think the WDW boards are so dead because all of the normal posters can't pull themselves out of Harry Potter land long enough to post.

 

Originally Posted By CuriousConstance

"I can't say the idea of an entire land devoted to the Avatar franchise ever generated much excitement for me. "

Maybe Disney has found that that's the general feeling for most people. I know I would prefer it not happen.

I've heard James Cameron can be quite challenging to work with, maybe he's causing trouble?

 

Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

>>>I think the Fantasyland addition is a perfectly charming addition to a theme park that is for THE ENTIRE FAMILY<<<

And that's all that comes to WDW in the first place. They need to go beyond that.

 

Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

>>>I think the WDW boards are so dead because all of the normal posters can't pull themselves out of Harry Potter land long enough to post.<<<

But...but...but... I'm back!

;-)

 

Originally Posted By leobloom

>> I've heard James Cameron can be quite challenging to work with, maybe he's causing trouble? <<

Allegedly WDI presented him with an E-ticket idea that would be essentially "Soarin' over Pandora," and he balked because, you know, "Soarin'" has been done and it's not ground-breaking and Cameron thinks the E-ticket in Avatarland should be top-notch.

Supposedly that created a little friction between him and Disney.

The NYTimes reported a flight simulator ride for Avatar -- so maybe that's the "Soarin'" idea or maybe it's an improvement.

Who knows?

 

Originally Posted By wahooskipper

"Yes. They should always endeavor to expand their reach in society".

If that is their mission then they should not build new rides but instead should lower their admission price. Just let anyone in.

 

Originally Posted By Scutr

>>...a theme park that is for THE ENTIRE FAMILY and not just a bunch of adults...<<


Families come in all shapes, sizes, and ages. "Family" is not a synonym for "people with small children".

 

Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom

<<But really, there's very little to get excited about, especially when compared to what Uni and SeaWorld are doing.
>>

Bingo!

 

Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt

"I think that would happen in TDO actually wanted to spend in the parks. They don't. They are content to allow them to rot with minimal improvements."

Is the New Fantasyland a "minmal improvement"?

 

Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom

I guess in all fairness, Disney will be partially opening the new Art of Animation resort immediately. Meanwhile, DVC growth continues unabated. So, vast sums of money are being spent on property. Personally, I think the Art of Animation resort will be a great addition to WDW. I do not think any of the WDW parks are rotting. But they are getting a bit stale. Some more than others. Other than "Soarin" I have not been wowed lately by any other new Disney rides or attractions. Sure, I like TSMM, but the lines and the way Fast Pass has been managed lately make that attraction unbearable. DHS would benefit from additional rides/attractions that appeal to the younger set.

 

Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

>>If that is their mission then they should not build new rides but instead should lower their admission price. Just let anyone in.<<

Well, they are a business. They have to maintain profit. But they can change how they do so, by all means.

 

Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

>>>Families come in all shapes, sizes, and ages. "Family" is not a synonym for "people with small children".<<<

Exactly.

 

Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

>>>Is the New Fantasyland a "minmal improvement"?<<<

Precisely that. New aesthetics. Some patches to capacity. Nothing more, nothing less.