Originally Posted By Malin I read here a while back that Turtle Talk with Crush was heading to Tokyo Disney Sea, anyone have an update on this?
Originally Posted By Supermatt70 Malin, it's already built and ready to open...OLC is just waiting for the Monsters Inc. promotion/celebration to end so they'll have something new to drive attendance! (Bitter & selfish)
Originally Posted By Bob Paris Yeah - I heard they finished the third theme park in 2003 but they are waiting for TDS to finish its tenth anniversary celebration in 2011. Sorry matt - I understand your frustration but unless you are going to Japan on business and cannot change the dates, I just cannot understand why you would not have planned appropriately. God knows, before my next trip to either the US or Japan I will be on here asking a million questions to make sure I do not miss out on ANYTHING. I am going so far as to boycott the US until 2012 so I can see all the new stuff at DCA.....if the US(let alone ANY Disney parks)still exists after today's news.
Originally Posted By Malin *** Sorry matt - I understand your frustration but unless you are going to Japan on business and cannot change the dates, I just cannot understand why you would not have planned appropriately. *** To be fair Lee has been saying for probarely over a year now that they were no garantee's this attraction would open during the Anniversary year. So you did have plenty of warning. While I think the attraction should open up before April, you can't blame the company for doing this with attendance apparently doing so well this year. It needs something to keep the mometum going.
Originally Posted By Supermatt70 Malin, I know that you & I are on the same side in this issue & I didn't really want to turn this topic into another off topic rant. I was just being droll, so I'll drop my grievance...after I say this of course... <<To be fair Lee has been saying for probarely over a year now that they were no garantee's this attraction would open during the Anniversary year. So you did have plenty of warning.>> To be fair, I think that Lee also expected Monsters to open in early (January) 2009. I am sure that Lee will correct me if I am mistaken. I don't want to drop names of who I am Tour Guide for or who I pick up at the airport for meetings, but most people familiar with Monsters anticipated an opening in this time frame also. As I have stated in the Monsters Inc. topic, I understand OLC's need to drive attendance post anniversary, I just wish they would do a soft opening of more than 5 days for this attraction. I'm gonna drop this issue, I'm not "Debbie Downer"... I now return you to our regularly scheduled topic, "Turtle Talk w/ Crush" Wouldn't a "Stitch Encounter" be more in line with Japanese taste than "Turtle Talk?" I can't even begin to imagine how all of those "DUDES" will go over with this audience!
Originally Posted By leemac <<To be fair, I think that Lee also expected Monsters to open in early (January) 2009. I am sure that Lee will correct me if I am mistaken. >> I'm happy to admit that. Ultimately the attraction is owned and operated by OLC and it is their decision. There are many of us that don't agree with that decision but there is little anything can be done now. It will open exactly a year after Bob Iger first rode it. Now I'm beginning to wonder if you have ever picked me up from MCO, Supermatt70!
Originally Posted By leemac <<Wouldn't a "Stitch Encounter" be more in line with Japanese taste than "Turtle Talk?" I can't even begin to imagine how all of those "DUDES" will go over with this audience!>> Stitch resides in TDL and there hasn't been the space to introduce the LCP into that park. I don't think anyone would want two Stitch attractions in TDL now that the Enchanted Tiki Room has reopened. I won't go into specifics but it is suffice to say that Crush won't have the Ozzie surfer dude attitude in Turtle Talk. Instead he will focus on his relationship with Squirt. That type of stereotype has very negative connotations with the Japanese public and it wouldn't have been socially and culturally inappropriate to just lift the US versions of the show and put it into TDR.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Ozzie >> Whoa. Aussie. No idea where the Osbournes came into this topic!
Originally Posted By MagicalNezumi ^^ The Osbournes are your compatriots. You can take Lee out of Britain, but you can't take the Brit out of Lee! (wink) -- MagicalNezumi
Originally Posted By Malin *** Malin, I know that you & I are on the same side in this issue & I didn't really want to turn this topic into another off topic rant. I was just being droll, so I'll drop my grievance...after I say this of course *** Its alright to go off topic, and like you are already aware of I do understand your point of view. I still think TDL should open this attraction in January for unofficial previews and open the attraction to a full media event at the end of April. End of the day providing we are still talking about the TDR or the other parks, I'm very happy to go off topic. Now the Osbournes on the other hand, I'm staying clear of that one. *** I won't go into specifics but it is suffice to say that Crush won't have the Ozzie surfer dude attitude in Turtle Talk. Instead he will focus on his relationship with Squirt. That type of stereotype has very negative connotations with the Japanese public and it wouldn't have been socially and culturally inappropriate to just lift the US versions of the show and put it into TDR. *** Its hard to believe its taken the Resort so long to introduce this technology into the parks. The changes being made to the show to accomendate the Japanese culture sound interesting, and I think its a safe bet this show will be a big hit with the Japanese crowd. I'm also looking forward to reading the reaction some people online are going to make to a Pixar character being in Disney Sea. Although it makes no difference as must of us will probarely never even watch the show due to the languege barrier.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones Any idea what the signage will look like? A large cartoon-like marquee would ruin the atmosphere of the area. Subtle and tasteful would be what I'm looking for. Would this be the entrance? <a href="http://www.tdrfan.com/tds/american_waterfront/s_s_columbia/gallery/2" target="_blank">http://www.tdrfan.com/tds/amer...allery/2</a>
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones If the signage looked like this banner: <a href="http://www.tdrfan.com/tds/american_waterfront/s_s_columbia/gallery/8" target="_blank">http://www.tdrfan.com/tds/amer...allery/8</a> But instead said "Turtle Talk with Crush" in that same font, I would be happy with that.
Originally Posted By TDR_Fan I have a feeling that they're going to use the Finding Nemo wavy font. I don't think they really care about thematically fitting the attraction in so long as it's popular.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones If they use a huge sign with Crush on it that's really in your face it would probably be the first major intrusion to theme in DisneySea. I have no problem with Turtle Talk being installed in the Columbia, but any intrusion into the American Waterfront area should be tasteful and maintain the theme of the land. To summarize, this: <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/disneylandaddict/2383493940/" target="_blank">http://flickr.com/photos/disne...3493940/</a> should not be placed anywhere outside the Columbia or within its more elegant areas. Outside of the animation building at DCA I believe the Turtle Talk with Crush signage simply scrolls along the building's marquee. Something along those lines, that fits into the area, would be appropriate for DisneySea.
Originally Posted By Malin I think the signing to some point is going to have to stick out. If you blend it in to much with the rest of the area, Guest may end up walking straight pass it. Of course having a Crush attraction will also mean the shops will be selling a huge assortment of Crush plushes. Anyway lets not stop here why not introduce Finding Nemo The Musical to the Boardway Theatre.
Originally Posted By leemac <<^^ The Osbournes are your compatriots. You can take Lee out of Britain, but you can't take the Brit out of Lee! (wink) -- MagicalNezumi>> Don't remind me! Such wonderful ambassadors for our great nation!!
Originally Posted By leemac <<Its hard to believe its taken the Resort so long to introduce this technology into the parks. >> Malin - I think much of it is OLC's conservatism and caution. They are often reluctant for TDR to be the breaking ground for new technology. They would rather co-opt it once it has been proven. It does make business sense to let someone else (usually TWDC's owned and operated parks) deal with the teething problems before taking it to Japan. Hunny Hunt was an anomaly in that respect but WDI had been playing around with the trackless LPS conveyance system for awhile so it wasn't a tremendous leap into the unknown. Otherwise I can't think of a single breakthrough technology that has debuted at TDR before any other park. The other issue with LCP is whether it can be scaled up sufficiently to meet capacity concerns whilst still providing a magical one-on-one experience. Turtle Talk did achieve that whilst Laugh Floor didn't (at least initially - I've not seen it in a long while). OLC always have to be cognizant that they have two very popular parks and need attractions with decent throughputs. The other issue is that character experiences tend to be coveted more at TDR than any other resort - they are essential to many guests' visits. You need to be certain that any LCP experience will be at least equal to the walk-around characters. I'm still not convinced that the Japanese will warm to this type of interaction - but it should be used to bring characters that don't live in the park (or can't for physical reasons - like Crush) into the resort. I still think that the Lucky/Muppet Mobile Lab-type experience would be phenomenally successful at TDR though.
Originally Posted By barboy Am I the only one here who finds Turtle Talk/MILF wholly abominable? Interacting with a screen, under the guise of improvisation, wreaks of sheer stupidity. I have no respect for the imagineer(s) behind those ideas---talk about rubbing our faces in technology. Who wants to bet me that both attractions will feel outdated by 2013?
