Originally Posted By MisterTophat >>But what whistle-blowing is he doing by releasing lists of crucial targets such as pipelines?<< <a href="http://www.iags.org/n0328051.htm" target="_blank">http://www.iags.org/n0328051.htm</a> The bad guys have known that pipelines make valuable targets long before Wikileaks. In my opinion, google earth is a more serious terrorism tool than the information released by Wikileaks. >>Manson wasn't perfect, either. Neither is bin Laden.<< Manson and Bin Laden were/are cold blooded killers. Assange (maybe) had sex with two women without a condom.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<If my tax dollars are going to military contractors who hire child prostitutes, I'd like to know about it and I'd like the practice stopped.>> While I certainly don't condone what they are doing, it is basically none of my business, and none of yours. If this "entertainment" were being paid for on an expense account it would be different. But I don't see any mention of that. It appears to be what those guys are spending their paychecks on. And that is no more anyone's business than what your local postman spends his paycheck on. We can all disapprove of that type of expenditure, but basically what any individual spends their money on is no one else's business. If they are spending it on illegal activities that is up to local law enforcement to stop… not you, not me, not Assange.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Manson and Bin Laden were/are cold blooded killers. Assange (maybe) had sex with two women without a condom." Ignoring, of course, all else Assange has recently done. I hear Manson likes puppies, too. He must have had a bad rap.
Originally Posted By mawnck Hitler liked puppies too. <a href="http://www.newsnet14.com/images/HitlerAndDog.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.newsnet14.com/image...dDog.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By MisterTophat >>Ignoring, of course, all else Assange has recently done.<< The list must be too expansive for you to share?
Originally Posted By Mr X ***The list must be too expansive for you to share?*** It really boils down to one simple thing. He pissed of TPTB. And I don't mean the governments (the insurance file though, I still think is a bridge too far).
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "The list must be too expansive for you to share?" You either haven't read this thread or you're being obtuse for the hell of it.
Originally Posted By MisterTophat >>You either haven't read this thread or you're being obtuse for the hell of it.<< I admit I've probably missed a few of the 170 posts in here. Would it really take that much time to summarize what terrible things he has done?
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Crap. X quoted Ron Paul. I must have died and gone to hell*** lmao. Hey what can I say? It's a great quote, and makes ya really think about stuff.
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Originally Posted By Dabob2 Interesting piece in HuffPo about Bradley Manning, the soldier who actually leaked the documents. All five of their "underappreciated people of 2010" are worth reading, but here's part of the piece on Manning: "While we were all fixated on Julian Assange, the story of the young American soldier who actually leaked the classified documents passed almost unnoticed. If Manning was mentioned at all, it was as to be described an impetuous, angry kid who downloaded the documents onto a CD and leaked them as a result of a "grudge" or "tantrum." Here's what really happened. Manning signed up when he was just 18 believing him would be protecting and defending his country and the cause of freedom. He soon found himself sent to Iraq, where he was ordered to round up and hand over Iraqi civilians to America's new Iraqi allies, who he could see were then torturing them with electrical drills and other implements. The only "crime" committed by many of these people was to write "scholarly critiques" of the occupation or the new people in charge. He knew torture was a crime under US, Iraqi and international law, so he went to his military supervisor and explained what was going on. He was told to shut up and get back to herding up Iraqis. Manning had to choose between being complicit in these atrocities, or not. At the age of 21, he made a brave choice -- to put human rights before his own interests. He found the classified military documents revealing the US was covering up the deaths of 15,000 Iraqis and had a de facto policy of allowing the Iraqis they had installed in power to carry out torture -- and he decided he had a moral obligation to show them to the American people. To prevent the major crime of torturing and murdering innocents, he committed the minor crime of leaking the evidence. He has spent the last seven months in solitary confinement -- a punishment that causes many prisoners to go mad and which the US National Commission on Prisons called "torturous." He is expected to be sentenced to 80 years in jail at least. The people who allowed torture have faced no punishment at all." <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann-hari/lets-hear-it-for-the-unap_b_801025.html" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...025.html</a>
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Makes me want to puke. Can you imagine if every disgusting thing that the American government and military ever did that was illegal/immoral suddenly came to surface at once? All the things like the above, that are hidden from American citizens and the world? I'm not sure what would happen.
