We are so utterly, unimaginably screwed

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  1. mawnck

    mawnck Well-Known Member

    Public Policy Polling, July 30th

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  2. Dabob2

    Dabob2 Well-Known Member

    I'm actually slightly heartened that Harambe only got 5%. And that he got twice as much as Jill Stein, who can only pull from Clinton.
     
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  3. mawnck

    mawnck Well-Known Member

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  4. Jim in Merced CA

    Jim in Merced CA Moderator

    Was on a road trip yesterday and happened to hear the coverage of the Green Party convention on the radio.

    I heard the VP speak, whose name is like an anagram of Barack Obama, and then Jill Stein took the stage.

    I'm not well read on the Green Party, and am very liberal in my own beliefs, but man oh man, if they're going to take over the system, they need to realize that it's going to take time.

    On the radio, they just come across as kind of kooky people who spend their time doing community theater.

    And I wish I could understand how all this free healthcare, college and so forth are going to be funded. I guess by dismantling the current structure of the military.
     
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  5. Dabob2

    Dabob2 Well-Known Member

    Mawnck, is that called "Trump Rally?" Because it should be.
     
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  6. Yookeroo

    Yookeroo Active Member

    I want to like the Green Party. I am to the left of the Dems. But the Greens attract the loony left people. The anti-vaxxer types. The Hillary-is-Satan types. When they stop nominating anti-science types like Jill Stien, I might take them seriously. Or if they start aiming lower, it might help. Start building at state assemblies. Or House of Rep seats. Running presidential candidates ultimately hurts the cause.
     
  7. Kar2oonman

    Kar2oonman Active Member

    At what point are far lefters and far righters no longer liberal or conservative, radical or reactionary, and simply plain old anarchists? I think if all a party does is spend its time tearing everything down, b*tching about everyone and every thing, and offering unworkable, unsustainable, unrealistic "solutions," then that's just being a contrarian.

    We've all known people who argue for the sake of arguing. Right now, many of them have gravitated to the Green party and Libertarianism. I know a few anti-vaxxers and it is amazing how much like a religion that is. BIG PHARMA and "the medical establishment" and "science" are all in it for the money and they secretly like killing people slowly over about 80 years or so.

    Man, we really, really need a party called The Realists. No hyperbole, no getting pulled into the same stupid political arguments. Just a group of level headed elected people trying their best to solve problems. Smart, regular folks. They do exist but get drowned out by the left/right rhetoric and media noise.
     
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  8. Dabob2

    Dabob2 Well-Known Member

    <We've all known people who argue for the sake of arguing.>

    No, we don't. :p
     
  9. Jim in Merced CA

    Jim in Merced CA Moderator

    Uh, yeah we do, Dabob2!
     
  10. Goofyernmost

    Goofyernmost Active Member

    You are wrong and I will continue to make my point until you give up. What are we arguing about again?
     
  11. Yookeroo

    Yookeroo Active Member

    Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?
     
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  12. Jim in Merced CA

    Jim in Merced CA Moderator

    I told you once
     
  13. Yookeroo

    Yookeroo Active Member

    No you didn't.
     
  14. Dabob2

    Dabob2 Well-Known Member

    And he could have been arguing on his own time.
     
  15. EdisYoda

    EdisYoda Member

    This isn't an argument, it's merely contradiction
     
  16. Yookeroo

    Yookeroo Active Member

    Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position!
     
  17. EighthDwarf

    EighthDwarf Active Member

    I like it! But unfortunately a centrist party working toward pragmatic solutions is doomed to fail as our political system is all about stirring emotions. Emotions lead to donations after all....and campaigns need donations. Logic has no place in our system anymore.
     
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  18. iamsally

    iamsally Well-Known Member

    This is so sadly true.o_O
     
  19. mawnck

    mawnck Well-Known Member

  20. Kar2oonman

    Kar2oonman Active Member

    Sounds pretty plausible. And he'll have a built-in audience for it. He will "win" because, in his storyline, the American people were tricked into voting for crooked Hillary, and his whole new act will be "Well, I could have fixed everything, but Crooked Hillary won." Hopefully the Republican party will somehow pull itself together and onto some track of sanity having got this tantrum out of its system.
     
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