bank on it. I sure as hell hope NOT, and my vote is for HER (in a swing state no less), but it's all but done. The left wingers are already kicking and bitching and blaming, which means they are NOT organizing. Get ready for it. Seriously.
Now now, wait for the debates. If Hillary screws those up, then you can start considering which bridge to jump off of.
I have to agree with that. But I really cannot even think about *President Trump* as a possibility. My brain, and heart, refuse to go there.
That is the same response that I have heard from 8 out of 10 people that I meet. If we get them all out to vote, Fromp won't happen. If they stay home and pack to leave the country... we then have a major problem. I cannot believe that all those people that Mien Clumph has angered and alienated will just sit at home and let him get in office. I don't say much publicly because if you run into a Dump supporter, all they do is call you names and repeat lies, however, I will speak as loudly as I can in the polling booth and that is were we all should be, the place where our opinion is inarguable. However, I do want to see a real strong presence of overseer's in the ballot count. I do not trust a Republican at all anymore. I used too, but that time is gone. It is time for a new party to develop, one that cares about people, one that isn't led by flim-flam people that only have there own personal interests as a requirement. I don't even want to see enough votes casts for the Republican party for them to even be able to say they got some sort of a public mandate, or at least not be able to say it with a straight face or without a room full of laughing people. This crap has got to end before we go down the tubes. We can still be a strong nation without being a massive A-hole in the process.
It is scary however, I have a Marine in my apartment complex that is currently sucking off the government with a full disability because of PTDS that just went to an Orange Hitler rally the other day. Came home with support signs and everything. This is a Marine. This is a military man that has conveniently forgotten what that evil little man said about the parents of a fallen Marine or the belittling of a prisoner of war because he got captured. He likes those that don't get captured better. Yet, he is supporting that. I have to admit that in all my 68 years I have never been more at a loss to understand the mentality of people then I have been this year. I hope there is a pill for that someplace because, much more time with having to deal with that garbage and we will all be suicidal.
Well, I am registered as are my son and husband. We will be casting votes for Hillary. (I do not even think she is the lesser of two evils.) I only know one person who refuses to vote for either and I have been unsuccessful in convincing her that her *none of the above* is a vote for Trump. We were at a party and she told an old friend of ours; who now lives out of the country, "Well, at least you do not have to decide between Clinton and Trump." His answer was, "Hell, I'd vote for Obama again!" To which I added, "I'd vote for Nixon." Just expressing how terrified I am of Trump.
There's a poll out today that about half the country believes Clinton is qualified, and only 30% said the same about Trump. 44% "fear" a Clinton Presidency while more than half fear a Trump Presidency. Even if people aren't honestly answering who they are voting for, those aren't the kind of numbers that lend themselves to people silently voting for Trump. I think it's more likely the other way will happen. Conservatives will never admit that they are going to vote for Clinton, but when the time comes they fear a Trump presidency more. As the quote from PJ O'Rourke says, "Clinton may be wrong about everything, but at least she's wrong within normal parameters."
Okay, are there ANY polls where the responses to the other questions lend one to believe that there is a large unvoiced support for Trump?
There's not a "large unvoiced support" for anyone. The polls, which show Trump within 3 points (per fivethirtyeight.com as of this writing), are accurate. "Responses to other questions" are not votes for President. R supporters have been voting against their own interests for decades. This isn't (quite) November and the polls could change, and probably will. But if you're still thinking Hillary can't lose this, then you're engaged in some serious wishful thinking.
I thought you lived in Japan as a permanent resident. Wouldn't that make you ineligible to vote "back home"?
Hell no. I still have to pay taxes, don't I? (unlike Trump, apparently) I'm an eligible voter for sure (assuming they don't throw my ballot away as soon as they see "Hillary" on it lol).
I can't make any predictions on this election, but at the moment I'm writing this, the momentum has swung back to Hillary. If it weren't so scary, it would be kind of funny to watch the ebb and flow of the polls. It's like some undecideds dart back and forth between the candidates based on that day's news. But then again, every time Jimmy Kimmel does his Liewitness News segment, I'm reminded that people are incredibly easy to confuse or manipulate… or simply willing to form an opinion on things based on little to no actual data.
One of the things I hate hate HATE about American culture circa 2016 is this deep-seated idea that no matter how utterly, embarrassingly ignorant you are on any given topic, your opinion about it is still worth something. He says, commenting on an internet discussion board. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I feel like being dumb and uninformed is rewarded in today's world People were able to justify liking George W. Bush because 'he's the kind of guy I'd like to have a beer with.' What that has to do with being POTUS is beyond me. I know Bush went to Yale and Harvard, but he just doesn't seem very bright. Trump is in that same category. Sure, he may be able to stretch a dollar but a genius? Rudy Giuliani called him agenius the way he handles business. Right. Me? I like to have the smartest person in the room as my President. Between these two - that's Hillary Clinton.
One of the more important things to be revealed by Trump's tax revelation is just what a non-genius he is, even when it comes to business, supposedly his strong suit. He had to be bailed out of terrible decisions several times in the 80's by Daddy. If he hadn't had a rich Daddy, his early businesses would have simply failed, and we'd never have heard of the man. In the early 90's, he had a further serious of disastrous business decisions. He ran the famous Eastern shuttle (from NY to DC), which he bought and renamed "Trump shuttle," into the ground. He ran the Plaza, a famous and venerable hotel, into the ground. Then he lost scads of money in casinos (of all businesses!) due to overpaying and the way he structured the debt. This is supposed to be his strong suit, remember. Other Atlantic City casinos thrived during this period when there were no competing casinos anywhere close (today there are, which is why AC in general is in trouble), yet Trump's did not, even though they got large crowds. And why is this? This is all documented and explained very well if you care to look, but the bottom line is that, especially with the Taj Mahal, he overpaid and structured the debt in such a way that the casino would have had to rake in more every day than it was capable of raking in. Anyone with any actual business sense would have crunched the numbers, seen this, and not made the deals he made. But he made them anyway. And the inevitable followed - math's a bitch. But it completely gives the lie to his claim to be a great dealmaker. Time and time again he's been a terrible dealmaker. This leads up to the nearly billion dollar loss in 1995. He now tries to say it was due to a downturn in the real estate market, but everyone and his brother has now pointed out that by '95, the brief downturn in real estate of the early 90's was long over. No, he lost all that money due to his terrible decisions on the airline, the Plaza, and especially his casinos. So what did he do? He went public, luring investors into an enterprise he knew was failing, but the average person did not (I'm sure most figured at the time "how can anyone lose money in casinos?") Art of the 'Steal': How Trump Lost $916M and Avoided Tax "To solve this problem, Trump sold stock for the first time in 1995. He founded Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts, which which then took ownership of his casino hotels. That meant Trump got money for selling his casino hotels, while the investors got real estate with greatly diminished tax benefits. Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts was a complete disaster. It lost money every year. During Trump’s 13 years as chairman, the company lost $1.1 billion. Trump stock fell from a high of $35 to just 17 cents, wiping out investors. Trump did just fine, though. He was paid $82 million, Fortune magazine estimated. The publicly traded company even took out loans that were used to pay off some of Trump’s remaining obligations to the banks from when he owned his casinos outright. The $82 million Trump was paid by the publicly traded company bearing his name should have all been received income tax-free thanks to those NOLs. Thus his mismanagement, and the tax benefits he stripped out of the casino hotels before he sold them to shareholders, made him richer and them poorer." Once again, we see Trump screwing over the little guy (individual investor) so that he could come out okay. He was able to take this huge loss and carry it forward, allowing him to pay no federal income tax for potentially 18 years. The investors who saw their stock go from $35 to 17 cents? Sorry, suckers. There's a limit of $3,000 you can deduct on your taxes for stock losses. And of course, when the casinos went bankrupt, Trump was able to skip out on paying scads of local businesses who did work for them. Again, average people getting screwed, Trump walking away. His claims to be for the little guy are laughable. Trump has fleeced the little guy his entire career with zero remorse. This, to me, is the more important takeaway from the tax revelation. Not that he got away with paying no federal income tax - that is infuriating, but sadly legal. Rather, it's his fleecing of the little guy, which even if legal, indicates a completely immoral man. He's not a genius at business. The only thing he's good at is getting other people to pay for his mistakes. He makes the mistakes and other people - often just average ordinary people who foolishly believed in him - get left holding the bag and paying the price. And if that's not a cautionary tale for what could happen to the country if he becomes president, I don't know what is.
