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    It's really past time for people to stop seeing conservative championing of Republicans and Trump as some kind of policy oriented, deeply thought plan. They are all about swimming in liberal tears. I'm to the point where I think the nuclear bombs could be raining down on us and a Trump voter's last words would be, "LOL libtards are mad." All they want is to stick it to lefties. They don't care who it hurts, themselves included, in the long run. Many of them aren't bright enough to know it's them that's being hurt, they've voted against their own self-interests for so long. But here we are. Most of the people hurt by the new healthcare bill are in red states. And who will they blame? Themselves? Trump? Nah, they'll mindlessly fumble through something about Obama and/or Clinton and immigrants and ISIS.

    A Message to Trump Voters on the Occasion of This Healthcare Bill
     
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    I've said it many times, but I'll say it again: Trump is a con man (and actually, Republicans like Rubio said that too, once upon a time).

    He talks a good game. As all con men do - by definition. Like most con men, he makes you think a). he's your friend, and b). he's going to make you richer if you believe in him. Add to that a toxic dash of not-so-concealed racism (which wasn't the appeal for all his voters, but let's not pretend it wasn't a feature rather than a bug for quite a few), and you have Trump.

    And part of the trouble of con men and con games is that the marks - even when they realized they've been taken - are embarrassed and loathe to admit it. I know a guy who, years ago, told me and our mutual friends that he'd been mugged and had $100 taken (a pretty decent sum for us at the time). Of course we all said it was terrible, and were thankful he wasn't hurt. Only much later did he tell me (and only me) that he had actually been conned - two guys who pretended not to know each other had done the scam where one of them pretends to have lots of money but is new to the city and needs your help, and somehow convinces you to put your OWN money in a hankerchief with his... and then they leave and you are left with a hankerchief full of newspaper. It always amazed me that that scam worked, but I know it was run for years - you'd see it explained on the news about once a year there for a while to warn you - and people kept falling for it.

    But my friend, like so many marks of con men, was embarrassed and made me swear not to tell anyone else. He had to tell someone, but didn't want anyone else to know, ever.
     
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    I don't understand. I thought Obamacare was horrible, the cause of tremendous suffering every day it remains in effect.



     
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    Con man, short for confidence man. They earn your trust and then take what you have be it money, services, your integrity. My husband once worked full time (including some over time) for a whole year. In that time he was paid around $2500. My kids kept telling me to steal his truck keys so he couldn't go to work. Nothing I said could get him to quit. He was just sure that there was money coming the next Friday.
    He would have my husband make small purchases for him on our credit card and pay him back cash. After "proving himself as trustworthy" he asked him to make a $3000 purchase. Luckily for Rod and for our marriage; he asked me first. As the proverbial sceptic I did NOT fall for it.
    But it does show how seemingly intelligent people can get sucked in to something that sounds good and keep falling for it after it is obvious it is not good. And being too embarrassed to admit it after.
     

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