Originally Posted By Doobie Now that outtakes are coming to be expected in Pixar films, what do you guys think? Is this a good trend or a gimmick that should end at some point? At what about outtakes in traditionally animated films? Do you think outtakes in a comedy like Emporer's New Groove would work well? Doobie.
Originally Posted By Starwind I haven't seen the outtakes for Monsters Inc. yet. I had seen the film three times before the outtakes were added, and I can't afford to see it anymore in New York. I think its a good trend. Pixar will outgrow it at some point. The films might end with musical numbers playing next to the credits someday. Did anyone get the sense that the song they played with the credits was supposed to accompany some visual song and dance routine by the cast? I sure did. Bloopers should stay exclusively with computer animation, simply because it isn't feasible to do it with traditional. Computer animation stores all the character and set models in a computer. You can just pluck them out and play with them a little to get a new scene. IN traditional animation, you would have to redo every element of the scene; too expensive and time consuming. Doing outtakes for Pixar, and adding a ton of extra animation to the Shrek DVD, was easy to do, because all the animators had to do was play with their models some more.
Originally Posted By Great Stone Dragon While I haven't seen the Monster's Inc ones yet, I do love the bloopers in the other Pixar movies. If I'm thinking about it, I'll catch myself thinking, "wow, they seemed to have a great time making this film," only to realize that I should be embarassed because they're not real actors the bloopers never really happened. That's why I enjoy them so much. 1) they're usually very funny. 2) they add a sense of depth to the characters. The bloopers work, though, because there are a lot of gags in the movies themselves. It appears to come naturally. I don't think it'd work for an animated movie like Atlantis, or some of the classics like Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella, or Pocahontas -- where the concentration is more action or romance oriented. I think as long as they are "make sense" it's a great idea, if not in the original theater screenings, for the home release.
Originally Posted By TikiDude I think the outtakes are a good trend but they fit only for comedies. I wouldn't want to see them in more the more dramatic stories (even if they have comedy relief). I mean, could you imagine this one in Snow White? Background Voice 1: Apple bite. Take 2. Background Voice 2: Marker! (Snow White takes bite of apple. Gags. Coughs.) Snow White: Okay! Who sprayed the Jalapeno mix on this? (Laughter in background. Dopey stumbles into the stage laughing and knocks over a stage lamp. Camera changes angle as operator laughs. Boom mike drops into scene.) Background Voice 1: (Laughs) Okay folks! Get that light back up. Knock off on the gags Dopey! We're losing our light.
Originally Posted By Luna I loved the Toy Story (1&2)ones. I can't comment about monsters since I haven't seen it. The Bugs Life ones were funny too.
Originally Posted By Doobie I forget ... the first outtakes were in Bug's Life, right? Anyone know the story behind them? Was an animator fooling around and someone thought "that'd be great to show the public?" Or did someone come up with the idea first? Doobie.
Originally Posted By tmonee11 The first outtakes were in Bugs Life. (there were none for Toy Story 1) I thought it was a very genious idea at the time. As for now, I still like them, and think they should continue to do them. What is great is that they are not just regular outtakes, there is a lot of humor and creativity in them. It gives them a chance to do more Simpsons/Seinfield humor that always doesn't fit within the context of the film.
Originally Posted By Luna Your right there may not be any outtakes in TS1. I rarely watch 1, I can't stand that nasty neighbor kid.
Originally Posted By TikiRoomer Since Pixar movies don't exactly grow on trees, why change on of the best parts of them? I DO think they should be included from the get-go, not tacked on after the box office tallies start to drop.
Originally Posted By rasvar Doing extra animation is not out of the question for the traditional. I know quite a few of the Florida animators have been working on finishing deleted scenes and such for future DVD's since work was wrapped on Lilo and Stich prior to start on the next feature. However, the outtakes would have to be planed at the start. Or would have to wait for DVD's.
Originally Posted By TheRedhead You know, I love the outtakes. I do like the whole idea of a "Pixar tradition" and I do look forward to new ones, etc. But. I think the pure geniusness of the outtakes began and ended with A Bug's Life. There was a time a few years back where it seemed like EVERY comedy movie you saw had bloopers during the closing credits. And of course all the bloopers fell into the same tired categories: actor flubs line, actress can't get through scene without laughing, kid says something cute, something falls. Then suddenly, an animated movie joins the trend, which is probably the funniest concept to come out of Hollywood in years. But I think what was so funny about the outtakes was that they actually "existed" in the first place. Now that we all got the joke, there's nothing really clever about it. The outtakes in Bugs Life were organic. Now they same a bit ho-hum. Plus the whole country is now obsessed with box office takes, so everyone knows why it's really done at this point. Add to the fact that I haven't seen a movie do bloopers in a while, so the reference is gone. I fear it's getting old. I don't know. I enjoy watching the outtakes, but I want Pixar to come up with another mind-blowing concept for the closing credits. Now I'm afraid they're chained to the outtakes.
Originally Posted By BeccasMommy I think the funniest outtake was Stinky Pete hitting on the Barbies at the end of TS2 I like them, I am sure at some point all the gags will have been used up, but for now...
Originally Posted By Jim in Pasadena CA To me, the outtakes work so well in GGI, because the images look so real... There's a realistic look to the characters, backgrounds and props that lends itself to the notion of 'bloopers' With standard 2D, they just don't have that same realism...
Originally Posted By Doobie Still, I'd like to see it with 2D sometime just to see how it comes off. I can picture the guys from Emperor's New Groove doing a good outtake. But perhaps the reality wouldn't be as good as the image I have. Doobie.
Originally Posted By tmonee11 <<Still, I'd like to see it with 2D sometime just to see how it comes off. I can picture the guys from Emperor's New Groove doing a good outtake. But perhaps the reality wouldn't be as good as the image I have.>>> I agree...I think that could work well on some traditional animation. Emp New Groove would have been a great one to try it on. I am glad they didn't try it with Atlantis ;
Originally Posted By Kuzcochik I love the Monster's Inc. outtakes especially the company play part. I love the bloopers on any of these movies and can never wait to see them. I saw Monster's Inc. twice and then finally dragged my parent to it. I don't know how it would be if Disney did outtakes on non computer movies. I think it could be hilarious, but kind of wierd. I really think it would be hilarious if they were on the Emperor's New Groove, but some just wouldn't make sence
Originally Posted By TikiRoomer CGI outtakes seem just a *little* more live than traditional animated ones would. Cel animated outtakes would look like what they were... animated fake outtakes. 3D CGI helps the illusion.
Originally Posted By Doobie I understand what you're saying, but I'm not so sure that's how I'd perceive it. I think before the Pixar outtakes I might have assumed the same thing. Doobie.
Originally Posted By TikiRoomer I equate it to "Bonkers" vs. "Roger Rabbit." In the Bonkers show, Bonkers is a toon in a human world... but the humans are animated too, so the show never had a real fish out of water feel to it, which is probably why I never liked it. Roger Rabbit was a toon, but interacting in a real, 3-D world, and it helped the illusion a lot. The Pixar worlds aren't too shabby, and can sometimes, just for a minute, make you forget that what you're looking at is computer generated. Even the best cel animation ALWAYS looks like cel animation (but that's not a bad thing.)
Originally Posted By Dlmusic I don't quite understand why the perception of reality seeing a giant blue monster talk wether or not it's in CGI is that different.
