Originally Posted By Hista98 So I'm I the only one who feels that the new DCA is going to be a little too crazy with charecters, i can't think of one ride that is in the cannon (not just for dca but all the parks in general ) that isn't based on disney charecters. Not that thats a bad thing, i know one of the biggest complaints about dca was that there were not enough charecters but too me this seems like a little too much of a good thing and it seems like it will be overload. and i've always felt that some of the most popular and longest lasting attractions are original ideas i.e jungle cruise, pirates and huanted mansion, I also like these rides more becuase you have no idea what there going to be like and are really able to enjoy it and be pulled into the magic as you don't know what will happen on the ride. Where as with one based on a movie, If you've seen the movie you kind of know how it's going to go, and how it will end. and i know that john lassiter has a big say about imagineering and he's going to want to make rides based on his movies which is fine, but I hope he also branches out and does original rides too, like the ones disney used to make. what do you guys think about the new dca???
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo You are preaching to the choir here. I have NEVER gone to a Disney resort wanting character experiences. I want theming and innovation. Personally I think the proposed direction for DCA is a bad one. But I do not want to sound like a broken record.
Originally Posted By Ursula California Screamin' The Golden (Silver) Zephyr Tower of Terror The Orange Stinger Maliboomer Grizzly River Rapids The Sunwheel (of Death) This is just off the top of my head.
Originally Posted By Hista98 I would really be heart broken if they spent 1.1 billion dollars to fix up DCA and then people still didn't like it because it was too much of one thing.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I think Hista was referring to the new plans Ursula, which with the exception of the trolley and preview center, are based on animated characters (inc MM and Wheel of Death)
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<I would really be heart broken if they spent 1.1 billion dollars to fix up DCA and then people still didn't like it because it was too much of one thing.>> There are a fair number of people out there who will NEVER like it, no matter what they do. Oh well.
Originally Posted By Ursula How can the Wheel of Death be tied to a character with one just being slapped on the outside? That doesn't change the theming, exactly, does it?
Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains I thought the Mickey or whatever was decided on the SoD was for the Water Show not to theme the SoD anyway... I am sorry but this is just old everyone complains about the characters when when it all started it started in DL with Character Themed rides - Not everything in either park is Character themed - But these are Disney Parks so I would expect character influences throughout -
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Then why are they proposing it? Pretty pointless if you ask me. Slapping characters on carnival rides are an even lower low. In the main, I like DCA. Personally instead of characters, they should really throw themselves into the California theme - instead of the LM, a Cal History AA dark ride. Carsland as a route 66 area with realistic cars, instead of the fairground characterisation, make it a perfect vision of turn of the century entertainment. How many LPers love Disneyland because of the animation? Personally I always preferred Loony Tunes (blasphemy, I know)
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo SOrry gottaluvdavillains, I disagree. TO me DL was about a cruise through the jungle, visiting New Orleans and it's pirate and spiritualy inhabitants, exploring the frontier - by boat, foot, or train (and seeing Cancan girls). Careeninig down a materhorn bobsleigh run. Travelling through liquid, inner and outer space. Seeing dinos from a steam train. Great themed shows, restaurants and shoping. In the banquet of DL, the characters were always the parsley.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip DCA tried appealing to the adult audience when it first opened and failed miserably. Characters bring in families, and that is where the money is. That is reality... as good or bad as it is.
Originally Posted By Hista98 yes i was, most of those rides you mentioned will be gone or toonized, by the time that the makeover is done with them
Originally Posted By dshyates Just like everything else Disney does, they know no moderation. They will push the characters until we want to puke. Its the Disney way. It was born out of the same logic that keeps me from going to Disney anymore. The hard pressure money grubbing is omnipresent these days and turns my stomach. There really is no effort put into quality entertainment as a product, there is always now a product in the product. Its all advertising for one product inside of a product you already paid for. Its like inserting Wall.E into every scene in Snow White DVD. Artistic integrity be damned. Rides are nothing but advertising opportunities to Disney these days.
Originally Posted By Hista98 which is disapointing. when disneyland first opened they didn't have charecters at all, except for the dark rides which didn't have them either
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "That doesn't change the theming, exactly, does it?" No, but it does add one more bean to the hill. That's whole problem with this new mandate: everything is saturated with character franchises. It's not just happening at DCA either.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Then why are they proposing it? To be fair, they are removing the Mickey silhouette from Screamin' and replacing it with a vintage looking sign that will say "Paradise Pier". So you could view this as more of a move than an all out new character addition.
