Originally Posted By dshyates Screamscape is reporting that Jim Hill is reporting the plans for the Russian Pavilion in WS MAY be back on. Spinning Rat coaster may be canned. There will be a small ceremony at DAK for its 10th Anniversary. So other than TSM what attractions are actually on the horizon? Wasn't the last major attraction added Everest late 2005?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I'm glad that the coaster seems to not be in the plans now. It just seems way too forced with the theme, while the Crush theme fits pretty naturally. It's also supposedly a slow moving line, which doesn't bode well for an attraction designed for those with pretty small kids. While I would like to see another WS pavilion, I'm not sure how I feel about reading someone whose saying someone else is saying that someone entirely different is saying it might be back on. I certainly think that Russia would be a great addition to the current roster, but I can't help but notice that this continues to completley ignore the Southern Hemisphere. There are plenty of other countries out there that aren't anything like the ones we currently have, while Russia shares quite a bit. I'm sure if they do go with Russia it will look amazing (hopefully have a ride too), but there just seems to be a lot of Europe in the World Showcase (even though Russia straddles the Ural Mountains and is in both Asia and Europe, the stuff they would show would most likely be the European part since Siberia is only interesting for so long.)
Originally Posted By dshyates "I'm not sure how I feel about reading someone whose saying someone else is saying that someone entirely different is saying it might be back on." Yeah, I could have actually gone to Jim Hill Media and then linked the article. <a href="http://tinyurl.com/3dx4ey" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/3dx4ey</a> There ya go. Complete with concept art from 1991.
Originally Posted By nbodyhome >> There will be a small ceremony at DAK for its 10th Anniversary. << I hate small ceremonies for big events.
Originally Posted By jmuboy I would loveeeeee to see Russia added. it's just the type of addition EPCOT needs.
Originally Posted By a1stav I think that Russia would be a great addition, but I doubt that most Russians nowadays would identify with the label "Soviet" that Jim Hill uses as a synonym for Russia several times in his article.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I think the places where he says "Soviet" he is referring to the original plans, which would have been for the Soviet Union at the time. Since the breakup happened just around the time they announced the plans, they never really got much further than that, however I don't think much of the original plans would need to change, since from what I've seen, the focus was clearly on Russia rather than all the states involved.
Originally Posted By Tip Top Club I think World Showcase should clean up the pavillions they have before adding more. I'm not saying that they are dirty or bad in anyway, but I feel they should be "Plussed" before adding a whole new pavillion, future world too, let's do something about wonders of life...
Originally Posted By Tip Top Club I think World Showcase should clean up the pavillions they have before adding more. I'm not saying that they are dirty or bad in anyway, but I feel they should be "Plussed" before adding a whole new pavillion, future world too, let's do something about wonders of life... As far as the ratatouille coaster goes, if that's the one we're referring too, I really don't think this movie lent itself to a ride. Now a restaurant I can see, I would love to eat at Chef Gusteau's or Ratatouille (The restaurant at the end of the movie) but I don't see how a coaster could work.
Originally Posted By dennis-in-ct World Showcase could use a new pavilion -- or three.. and attractions ... like it or not .. people want attractions
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 EPCOT has quite a few attractions, and WS seems popular with or without attractions. I don't believe in dumbing down WS just because a few people want attractions. Plus didn't Jim Hill mention something about a ride to go with the Russia Pavilion. I say they go for it especially if they can get a Russian Company to foot most of the costs.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 On a side note, when my son was 2 we went to WDW, and his highlight of that trip was World Showcase, because he got to go to each pavilion and get a stamp, do an art project and get his passport marked. He loved doing that and guess what, it was educational. Small things like that make the difference, not huge attractions.
Originally Posted By dshyates "and attractions ... like it or not .. people want attractions." Attractions are so imature. Wouldn't you guys like a park more if it is a few simple carnival rides and 100s of shops and restaurants. Then I could see how they could go ahead and raise the price to $100/day. Instead of a Russian Pavilion, they build a Rissian influenced hotel with a kids free restaurant, and lots of overpriced Russian trinkets. Hans and Jonvn have finally convinced me that the DCA model should be the gold standard of theme park development. Why spend all that money when carnival spinners and biege stucco is just fine.
Originally Posted By nbodyhome I actually don't want too many more attractions in WS, I do also like it the way it is.
Originally Posted By tonyanton I agree. A pavilion or two would be nice, but I would rather see upgrades in FW (Imagination, WoL, Energy) and more attractions at the Studios.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom EPCOT is by far my favorite Disney park and for a while now I have believed that EPCOT could use some tender loving care. It would be great if an additional country was added to WS. Meanwhile, WS would fastly benefit from some plusing. Then there is the FW, can we please replace, Honey I shrunk the Grandchildren, do something about the empty 2nd floor of Imagination, bulldoze WoL.... so much under utilized space. Did someone mention spinners and carnival rides? I'd rather have the carnival rides over empty 2nd floors and seasonally utilized areas.
Originally Posted By plpeters70 "I don't believe in dumbing down WS just because a few people want attractions." I would have to disagree -- I don't see how adding attractions would dumb down WS - wouldn't it just be plussing it? I think it would be wonderful if every country in WS had at least one attraction -- right now, we have Italy, Germany, Japan, Morrocco and the United Kingdom without any attractions at all -- only shopping and dining. And while I love what is there, I can't help but think how great it would be if there were even more shows, movies and rides to enjoy while in WS. And having those attractions would in no way dumb down the area -- it would only enhance it and give people even more reasons to enter those pavilions.
Originally Posted By nbodyhome I don't at all mind more pavillions. I just don't care about rides, and I don't want to see anything TOO thrilling where kids are running through WS to try to get first ride of the day (or one that will fill up the walkways at WS with too many people). That might not happen, but I just like the relative peace of WS.
Originally Posted By plpeters70 "That might not happen, but I just like the relative peace of WS." While I tend to agree with you, I have often thought that Disney made a mistake by not having at least one or two roller coasters at EPCOT from day one. EPCOT Center was an amazing park when it opened, but it didn't have ANY traditional thrill rides -- the "thrills" were all mental. And while I personally didn't miss them, I know that many others did. And since I feel that roller coasters have no place in Future World, the only place that would have made sense in the original park would have been to place mountain themed coasters in World Showcase. While I know this would have meant less of the tranquil environment that we so love, I think that more of the original EPCOT Center, i.e. Future World, could have been saved if Disney had created a few classic thrills in the park from the beginning. (I should also add that I feel that Disney made a mistake by replacing rides like Horizons and World of Motion with thrills -- the rides should have remained, and thrills should have been placed around them. Future World would have been more "balanced" that way.)
