Originally Posted By TP2000 PeterPan1313 and Dis-Philip, you boys should sit down for this one because it appears Miceage was right and it's not going to be in the Simba parking lot and Mickey's Toontown is in the crosshairs. <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2015/08/star-wars-themed-lands-coming-to-walt-disney-world-and-disneyland-resorts/">http://disneyparks.disney.go.c...resorts/</a> More information to come later this afternoon during the official Parks & Resorts presentation at D23 Expo. Can I get anyone a glass of water and an aspirin? Maybe something stronger? Philip? Peter? Just keep breathing please.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I know we're all assuming it will replace Toontown and the surrounding backstage areas, but there's still nothing to indicate that it couldn't take over a large chunk of Tomorrowland. That area of the park is a disaster right now (worse than Toontown, which at least seems to know what it wants to be) and already has the existing Star Wars-themed attraction That said, I would be fairly surprised if it went to Tomorrowland. Still, I can't help but wonder how much worse that land will get, since surely the flashy new sci-fi land on the other side of the park would take away any potential budget for giving it the makeover it needs (and has needed for well over a decade)
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "A rep for the company told BuzzFeed News that the current plan is to break ground on Disneyland’s Star Wars land by the end of 2017. That land will reside where the Big Thunder Ranch is currently located within Disneyland, as well as some areas within the park that are currently off limits to the public. The Disney rep did not, however, have a time table for the Orlando version of Star Wars land."
Originally Posted By FerretAfros So does that mean that Toontown is safe? The new stuff is going to be entirely in unused/backstage areas?
Originally Posted By berol Time will tell. Peter's S.O.P. is "they changed the plan, but they're keeping..."
Originally Posted By Ifzorro68 So this place is going to be bigger than Cartlane by 2 acres it's going to be one immersive land
Originally Posted By Chip2277 Also, please don't replace Fantasyland Theatre! We need a stage show for the park. Unless of course if they want to move MATMM to the Tomorrowland Theatre which means rebuild Magic Eye Theater.
Originally Posted By phruby According to google Simba parking lot is 24 acres. It's too big for this. Toontown is 4 acres while big thunder ranch and the horse area and backstage is 10.
Originally Posted By PeterPan1313 >>>PeterPan1313 and Dis-Philip, you boys should sit down for this one because it appears Miceage was right and it's not going to be in the Simba parking lot and Mickey's Toontown is in the crosshairs. <<< Toontown is only 4.5 acres, and that includes the show buildings! Ergo, as SWLand is 14 acres, give or take, . . . if they somehow decide to put it north of the berm, then a whole of buildings will be demolished. As I said, the DLR won't be running in front of SWLand, it was already revealed today that everything you see in SWLand will be Star Wars . . . like i've said all along. >>>Toontown is 4 acres while big thunder ranch and the horse area and backstage is 10.<<< SWLand will be always Star Wars, it won't be Critter country with the train bisecting it, hence it will probably not utilize the Big Thunder ranch/festival of fools area. I don't think they'd want SWland visible from the Mark Twain if they could help it, especially in the north river bend part. >>>it appears Miceage was right and it's not going to be in the Simba parking lot<<< Meh. It is easy to confuse "Disneyland", "Disneyland Resort", "Disneyland Park", etc . . . it might well end up in Simba. I am not at all convinced it will go into the northern backstage area, haven't heard anything about that.
Originally Posted By PeterPan1313 >>>According to google Simba parking lot is 24 acres. It's too big for this.<<< I think the wording would be Simba is big enough for SWLand, easily . . . my earlier info said SWLand would be 15 acres, a big larger than Carsland, and put on Simba, that leaves 9 acres for backstage roadways, some parking for the hotel, expansion of SWLand at a later date. A lot of things were announced today, projects for DHS, DLR, all over the place . . . something might well have been lost in translation. Then there's the 14.7 acres on the other side of the Carousel Inn that Disney bought a while ago. They might well use themed transportation from Tomorrowland over there, add a parking garage in Pumba or Toy Story, and in the future have transportation from those 14.7 acres to the strawberry fields. Lots of possibilities.
Originally Posted By monorailblue The only certainty is that whatever PP1313 announces definitely will never happen.
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "it was already revealed today that everything you see in SWLand will be Star Wars . . . like i've said all along." I'm blown away by your ability to predict the future.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "A lot of things were announced today, projects for DHS, DLR, all over the place . . . something might well have been lost in translation." Good god man give it up and stop it alreadyS. CC quoted a rep for Disney who confirmed that the expansion is going inside DL. It's also been all over the media today that it's going inside the park. There was even a post on the Disney Park Blog confirming it.
Originally Posted By dagobert D&M has all the pictures of the land in high resolution. <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2015/08/star-wars-lands-officially-announced.html">http://disneyandmore.blogspot....ced.html</a> SWLand will be amazing. The concept art is stunning. I can't wait to get more informations about the rides. Although we don't have many infos yet, this is on the same level like Harry Potter, maybe even a bit higher. But that's just my opinion, because I like SW much more than HP.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Of the little information that has been released, I am a little concerned about the amount of space that is being dedicated to so little capacity. They've said that it will be 14 acres, but only 2 attractions. Given how limited the space is in Anaheim, this seems like a foolish way to use it to me. Even Carsland, which has 3 attractions in 11 acres, seems far too spread out in comparison to the other densely-packed areas of the parks I don't doubt that it will be well executed or incredibly popular. However, it just doesn't seem like the best use of DLR's most limited resource. In WDW it makes perfect sense to scale everything like that, but it just doesn't seem in line with DLR's existing infrastructure
Originally Posted By dagobert According to this Tweet, Toon Town stays. But i don't know if he really has a source. <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/ManaByte/status/632945537373724672">http://twitter.com/ManaByte/st...73724672</a>
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Disneyland Today is an official handle, so I would trust them. It seems odd that they would announce it, since it's intended for interactions like show times and other frequently asked questions from guests in the park, but they know what they're talking about
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance In reference to your capacity concerns Ferret, I'm willing to bet that while there are just two attractions, I bet they will both be high capacity attractions. If you think about it, Luigi's and Mater's are very small in capacity, so I bet the two of them combined don't equate to either of the new Star Wars attractions. They both sound like they will be pretty large in scale nothing like a minor attraction such as Maters and Luigi's. In addition, I'm guessing the Cantina will be as popular as an attraction and probably quite large. Also, I bet there will be tons of other smaller scale things such as meet and greets and cool little things tucked into all it's extra spaces to help spread out. Can I be anymore excited? Probably not. Ordering drinks at the Cantina from a Wookie? Is this heaven???? My son was so excited when we were looking at the artwork he could barely contain himself. A couple quotes from him: "Bam! This is how Star Wars takes over Disneyland!" "Mom, do you think they'll remove the Walt and Mickey Statue to put something up like a Jabba the Hut statue." We're nerding out to the extreme.
Originally Posted By perlster waiting for a retraction ... and eating of humble pie ... and NOT from PeePee 13
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>In reference to your capacity concerns Ferret, I'm willing to bet that while there are just two attractions, I bet they will both be high capacity attractions.<< I hope so, but I'm not convinced. They both sound like they will probably include thrill and/or interactive elements, and Disney has yet to prove that they can really do these things on a high-capacity scale. It seems like most of their thrill ride E-tickets top out around 1,400 guests per hour. But older rides like Mansion, Pirates, and the PeopleMover can take 2,000-3,400 guests per hour Even the ultra-popular Radiator Springs Racers has a relatively low capacity, and it takes up 6 acres of land on its own. We all know that the new Star Wars land will be incredibly popular, especially when it first opens. I just hope that they keep this in mind when they're planning the menu and using up real estate that realistically be able to be repurposed for decades to come And I'm sure that there will be loads of cool things like the Cantina and meet & greets, but those have abysmally low capacity. A meet & greet is lucky if it can pull 150 guests an hour, and requires high staffing levels. A 300-seat restaurant huge in the world of dining (though a small footprint on a 14-acre site), but if you consider that most diners will take 45-60 minutes to eat, it also has a very low capacity I don't doubt that this stuff will be cool. I just really question if they're being smart enough about what they're adding. The various interactive and thrill rides they've built throughout their empire in the last ~30 years really make me wonder...
