Originally Posted By bean So what is everyones opinion about Pirates Lair concept art that was released by Disney? Sorry i just realized it hasn't been posted here on Laughingplace. Maybe the moderators could post it so people can see it. Meanwhile it can be seen over at mouseinfo. Do you guys think it will re-viatlize the Island with something visual during the day? Will the interactive elements attract people from the mainland? whats everyones opinion.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss It's going to mean you won't be able to just hop on over to the island... there will be a line for the rafts.
Originally Posted By Daannzzz The concept art makes it look pretty neat as much of the Diosney concept art does. Most of the time it is a bit more idealized than what turns out but it is always cool to look at and imagine and compare. I have a bit of a problems with it though. It is a half **sed concept. I can imgine a much, much more spectacular, exotic, fun pirate island. I am sure they have consept art of that as well. The problem lies with the death of Tom Sawyer Island if a bigger consept is used and how that all would fit in with Frontierland. I guess I wouldn't mind Frontierland leaving as long as what replaced it was really good. I don't know how you would reimagineer BTM into a Pirate theme though!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo See, I saw the art and though - other than flags and cast members, doesn't look a lot different. It doesn't float my boat, and I'm a huge Pirate fan. I'm worried it's going to be cheesy.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Tom Sawyer Island has been a pretty laid back area since it opened. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I think the small-scale fun areas are important. Now, with this whole 'C'mon over and see all the pirates' -- it has a more hyper-active flavor to it, but, to each his own. Could be fun. I wonder how they'll prevent the island from getting overcrowded?
Originally Posted By monorailblue They'll keep a guest count of those going over and those returning. There will be a number limit, and, if they should reach it, they won't take anyone else over until people start to leave, I should expect.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <They'll keep a guest count of those going over and those returning.> Right. So imagine on a particularly busy day, either standing in line to get over or to get back. Not terribly fun. Especially waiting to go over. You've waited in line for 20 minutes, and a cast member says 'We have to wait for other guests to come back from the island.'
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I couldn't get MouseInfo to work, but they have it in a thread on MiceChat as well. The image that I saw is quite out of date, since it has the 50th decorations on the Twain. The cannons shooting into the river make a lot more sense for people to see and logistically than the falling chimneys. There is a sign on the cider mill building that says Lafayette's Tavern, which I assume has been ditched since then as well. I would guess that they are going to keep some sort of mast on the stage area, since they have been working on one of the trap doors since they closed the island, so there will probably be a removable structure there. Other than that, I really don't see much in the picture that is more than just people dressed as pirates adding atmosphere.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 Yeah, other than the pirates and flags in the picture, as well as cannon splashes, not much is different. Plus, this is just the Mill area and not any concept art for the rest of the island. I'm not that interested if this is it.
Originally Posted By ni_teach I would call it promotion art rather than concept art. It really doesn't show the changes that are going to happen to the island.
Originally Posted By juicer In the 80's when the park was really busy they used to have 3 rafts going - Two like they always do - and one going over to a dock that is over to the left (kind of across from Slash) - It worked pretty well - If they can have 3 rafts going again - That would help a lot with the lines when the island reopens
Originally Posted By FerretAfros It would certainly help getting people over there and back, but unlike most attractions, they really can't limit how long people stay on the island. If people head over there and stay for several hours (unlikely) the extra raft will do little good. I wouldn't be surprised, however, if they used the extra raft to get the entertainers over there and back, since it would be weird to ride over on a raft with them.
Originally Posted By bean Calling the tavern Lafeyette would tie it in the Island to New orleans as well as frontierland. There is actually references to Lafeyette in areas surrounding the New Orleans walkways. One prop is an anchor near the river. I am guessing that the artist left the Mark twain with its 50th decorations because at the time the idea was being worked on the Mark twin still had its decor up.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I doubt there will actually be anything resembling a restuarant there though. It would be really neat to have one, but realistically I wouldn't expect anything more than a small snack bar. Even that would be pretty tough to keep up with the demand. Anybody know what's actually inside the building? I thought I read that it was open during the early 90's after it was built, but it seems to just be a big prop now. I wonder if there would be enough room in there to have some variety of food without getting in the way of the Fantasmic! stuff.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <I wouldn't expect anything more than a small snack bar.> Well, with all those people waiting around to get back to the 'mainland' you'll eventually have to feed them!
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I would assume the wait would be mostly for the rafts to the island, not back. The island has a fairly small capacity compared to the rest of the park, so they can only fit so many people on it at any given time. With getting back to the mainland, the only restriction is how many people are ahead of you in line. And since they all came over on a raft at one point too, I dooubt that there would be a horribly long line to return.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 They used to have a snack bar inside the fort, so adding one back to the island would be great.
Originally Posted By pitapan16 Where is the "concept art" for this project? I can't load mouseinfo for some reason and have'nt been able to for days. Are they working on the site?
