Originally Posted By ssWEDguy I can't get over how some yahoos will stomp on flowers at WDW just to "get a better photograph." At Epcot there's a nice topiary display between the big fountains and World Showcase Plaza. Snow White, Dopey, Bambi and Thumper are all done up real nice as topiaries there, completely surrounded by a thick field of wild flowers. The wild flowers are planted so thickly that there is NO space between them. And the topiaries are set back from the edge of the planter by 10 feet or so. I have already seen people who will walk out on the flowers so that they can stand directly next to the topiary for a picture. And once once person does it, somebody else decides to too. I could see today where there's the beginning of a path of stomped flowers leading from the edge of the planter to Snow White. I have even seen parents encourage their kids to go out there and stand next to Snow White so they can get a picture. Where do these people come from?
Originally Posted By brotherdave I saw a video on a website once that showed a group of college age guys doing some incredibly stupid things at Epcot. Of some of their stupid antics include kicking a Goofy topiary "in a delicate spot" (of course, they're standing in the flower bed in front), standing in decorative fountains, hugging and 'fondling' a Snow White topiary, running through various flower beds, climbing on top of the Snow Cat that was once outside Ice Station Cool, and sitting in a nicely pruned spherical hedge (which didn't look so spherical anymore) among the many STUPID things they were doing in the park. My question is, "Where was security?". And what really irks me, is that they set it to music and seemed really proud of their antics. Is there no respect for property anymore? Buying admission to the park does not entitle you to destroy or harm anything in it! Anyway, here's the link to the video <a href="http://www.themeparkreview.com/contest2004.htm" target="_blank">http://www.themeparkreview.com /contest2004.htm</a> Scroll down until you see one of these dorks sitting in a fountain and the title is "Hope McArthur's Epcot Video". Oh yeah, I forgot. The video also won an award on the website! Unbelievable....
Originally Posted By TDLFAN My question is... where are the CMs or WDW Secutiry to stop such infantile behavior??? Oh, I forgot, 95.7% of the CMs do not care.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> Oh, I forgot, 95.7% of the CMs do not care. << I think this percentage is much too high. I care. I'm one of the ones who ask people politely to get out of the flowers. "For your safety, miss." I also stop people who are smoking where they shouldn't be. I even pick up papers in the middle of the walk. And yes, I did ask the yahoo to please get out of the flowers. On top of it all, the photo that they were trying to get would make a rotten image.
Originally Posted By demderedoseguys When I see unacceptable behavior at the parks, I seek out the nearest CM and make them speak to the guilty parties or I will say something myself. At 6-3 and 220 lbs, not too many people will argue with me.
Originally Posted By Coachbagfanatic1 <<Where do these people come from?>> Idiot-ville As for those parents who send their children in the flowers to take the pictures, they are complete *Bleep Bleep's*. If those parents were to sit there for hours to plant those flowers and to form the topiaries, they would think twice. They have no respect or concern for the many people who worked very hard. We owned a landscaping business and I know what it takes to do that kind of work. All I can say is ignorance comes to mind when I think of those types of people.
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy <When I see unacceptable behavior at the parks, I seek out the nearest CM and make them speak to the guilty parties or I will say something myself. At 6-3 and 220 lbs, not too many people will argue with me.> Is that where your screenname came from? "You go over there and tell dem dere dose guys to knock it off or I will myself!" ;-) And I may be 3 inches taller'n you, but seein' as you're quite a bit bigger'n I am, I wouldn't shoot my mouth off at ya either!
Originally Posted By DVC_dad Honestly, I don't think it's that big of a deal. The flowers get replanted often. I mean, I wouldn't do it, and my kids better not do it, but at least they aren't hurting other people. I once had myself and my then two year old son trampled on by some over zealous Red Neck adults, breaking in front of us to get a picture of themselves with Minnie in Future World West. My little boy suffered a sprained ankle from it and I came very close to going all "George Dubya" on them. It was some satisfaction when the "guy who hangs around the character" made them leave and we got all kinds of extra time with Minnie and a trip to first aid with her.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> Honestly, I don't think it's that big of a deal. The flowers get replanted often.<< Yet something so small and simple is not trivial. It just strikes me that picking up a piece of trash that someone might discard thoughtlessly is one thing. But someone so casually stepping on something living and so pretty crosses a line. And then it's not bad enough that one person does it. As soon as someone does such a thing, it opens the gates for others to "give her a go" too. Yahoos. >> a trip to first aid with Minnie << Now THAT's a special Disney event.
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy I would hate to see that too. Even if the Garden of Live Flowers in Wonderland* were for the most part insolent haughties who could have used a good "taken down a peg" or two, real non-talking flowers shouldn't get squished. * (ironically this is my favorite part of the movie, lol)
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>I don't think it's that big of a deal. The flowers get replanted often. I mean, I wouldn't do it, and my kids better not do it, but at least they aren't hurting other people.<< You make no sense. Your kids better not do it, yet you seem to say it's "ok" to mistreat other people's property?? If I was one of those hard working gardeners... I would be quite p****d about your comment.
Originally Posted By bloona Go round to their gardens to stomp on their things! See how they like it!! I would go mental if my kids did that. Well they wouldn't do it in the first place.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: It would seem that--in today's world--it's considered 'normal' and it's even EXPECTED to mistreat just about everything and everybody--with careless disregard for any sort of consequences. The brutes who go about do this are proud of their insensitivity and enjoy rubbing all our noses into the midst of their outrageous behavior. ORGOCH: Well, heck! It's no dif'rent from what it's like in Morva!! So stop actin' like yer shocked!
Originally Posted By Coachbagfanatic1 <<Honestly, I don't think it's that big of a deal. The flowers get replanted often.>. You are right the flowers do get replanted but it takes a lot of time and energy to plant those flowers. From my own experience owning a Landscaping business, it is hard work and for someone to walk all over them even if they do get replaced is not a nice thing to do or to see. JMO
Originally Posted By Fe Maiden << but at least they aren't hurting other people.>> Have our standards for common decency fallen that low? "How was you're trip to WDW?" "Great, I wasn't punched, kicked, or bitten at all! Not even a mild melee. And better yet, this time I came home with a tan instead of a nasty black eye."
Originally Posted By trekkeruss Perhaps Disney should be more proactive next time and design in a walkway and a place to stand next to the topiary.
