Originally Posted By SpokkerJones We hear a lot about how TDL and TDS are immaculately clean and maintained. This is in stark contrast to Disneyland, while very much improved in recent years, and WDW, which often have peeling paint and burnt out light bulbs, and CMs that don't seem to care. While I didn't notice wear and tear at TDR, do you have any pictures of peeling paint and burnt out bulbs at the Japanese parks? Any photos of a neglected and trashed Journey to the Center of the Earth queue? Any broken benches in the American Waterfront? Are half the bulbs burnt out in the World Bazaar? Post 'em if you got 'em.
Originally Posted By barboy just barely relevant: if only I had a picture of the overflowing garbage can at say 3:00 pm and that same garbage can at 6 pm knocked over and contents scattered in a 8' radius from the epicenter in the Disney Village near New York Hotel at DLParis ......and then still scattered by say 7:30pm--- for all know it could have stayed that way all night. That was the all time greatest example of Disney property neglect I have ever seen. Please note that this was a major walkway, the main walkway around the resort lake and not some secondary access.
Originally Posted By MagicalNezumi There were plenty of sore spots around TDL before the anniversary celebrations began. Also, check TDS structures that directly face Tokyo Bay, such as the StormRider domes. -- MagicalNezumi
Originally Posted By Malin *** if only I had a picture of the overflowing garbage can at say 3:00 pm and that same garbage can at 6 pm knocked over and contents scattered in a 8' radius from the epicenter in the Disney Village near New York Hotel at DLParis *** Knowing Disneyland Resort Paris your observation does not suprise me at all, the stuff I have seen that goes un notice at that Resort is shocking at times. But Management does seem concern not when it is instead spending its budget on Mickey's Magical Party <a href="http://www.mickeymagicalyear.com/int" target="_blank">http://www.mickeymagicalyear.com/int</a> *** check TDS structures that directly face Tokyo Bay, such as the StormRider domes *** Is this not more a design error having structure in a theme park directly facing the Bay.
Originally Posted By SuperDry The only thing I can remember seeing is a very obvious wall as you enter Tomorrowland from the hub, although I think this has been fixed for the 25th. Other than that, there's nothing that I can remember. Although I'm sure you could find stuff if that was your goal, overall, you just don't see maintenance issues like you do in the other parks. In addition to a lack of peeling paint, there's also a very noticeable lack of inop effects on attractions. It seems to me that on a several-day visit, I might see one or or maybe two small effects not working properly. But at WDW, it's more like 2-3 effects on every attraction in every park that aren't working, sometimes minor, but sometimes major.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones I read that the Yeti doesn't work anymore and hasn't for some time, and probably won't for some time. This would be like the monster on Journey to the Center of the Earth not working.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Indeed we went to WDW in 2006 to experience EE and Nemo(a few weeks after the Epcot attraction opened and during the stage show previews). Well, the Yeti was in blackness and the angler fish never moved (along with issue with the HM - now fixed, Country Bears, Splash, PotC, CoP, and many Epcot attractions with broken AA's). Bottom line - we feel less likely to ever go back to WDW and it has been a major part of my loss of faith in Disney. - Let's put the Walt back in Disney -
Originally Posted By The Goddess Mara Why in the world do you want to obssess about a piece of paper on the ground or chipped paint? Have you been drinking Al Lutz juice? Please. You can find handrails at Tokyo Disneyland and DisneySea that need paint just like you can at every Disney park around the world. Give it a rest. You can find burnt out bulbs at every Disney park. They're not going to replace every burnt out bulb every single day. Maintainance on AAs is another issue, and needs to be done regularly or the suspension of disbelief at an attraction is really spoiled.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones But the maintenance at TDR is perceived to be superior to the American parks. We have plenty of documentation of bad upkeep and bad show at the American Disney Parks. I'm wondering if there is such images of TDR in such disrepair.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "You can find burnt out bulbs at every Disney park. They're not going to replace every burnt out bulb every single day." ...anymore. Light bulbs on Main Street were once changed at a certain percentage of their lifespan. At least, that's what The Walt Disney Company used to say.
Originally Posted By The Goddess Mara Anyone who pretends that there is no worn paint at the Tokyo Disney Resort isn't looking very closely. But you DO have look closely to see it (and I notice all kinds of dopey things--I'm just that way, but I don't complain about them).
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones And if someone complains about them, does that make them... what exactly?
Originally Posted By The Goddess Mara It just makes you the type of person who complains about burnt-out bulbs and peeling paint. A Disney-Blues kind of person. You can take it any way you want. I choose to concentrate on other things, like whether the rides are being properly maintained and the AAs and effects are working, and being upgraded. And new rides are being added. For example, I don't care if there's paint rubbed off some handrails at the Animal Kingdom, but I do care that someone in the Walt Disney Company was so incredibly stupid to build numerous effects into Expedition Everest that cannot be run on a regular basis because to do so would cause damage to the track, or the mountain's structure. That's plain dumb and it pisses me off. Rubbed off paint on handrails and a couple of burnt-out bulbs register very low on my radar compared to that.
Originally Posted By Mr X Wow. I have practically the opposite viewpoint in terms of what bothers me. When I go to Disney parks, I expect perfection in the little details. A beautiful flowerbed, a Main Street with all the lights working, a spotlessly cleaned and maintained park. As for attraction elements, however, I guess I just don't pay enough attention to care if something is "missing" that's supposed to be there. In other words, I don't really "know" the attractions that well so I don't "look forward" to things (exception being the Haunted Mansion..I love that ride and I know every little detail and where to look for it, at least in the Tokyo and Orlando versions) so much as I just ride through and take it in. And even if an AA were broken, it really wouldn't bother me much at all. I don't necessarily assume that's a maintenance issue (though I know it is), until I came onto LP and "learned better" lol I always just assumed that AA or effect had simply broken down shortly before my ride vehicle arrived. Go figure.
Originally Posted By The Goddess Mara Differing opinions make the world go round. One thing we can mostly agree on is that the Tokyo Disney Resort has the best overall pair of Disney parks in the world.
Originally Posted By barboy ///best overall pair of Disney parks in the world/// as an inseparable pair yes, I agree--- I'd say far better than DL/DCA(Anaheim), DLP/WDSP(Paris) or any two combo from WDW(Orlando). But my dream two park attack would be a DLP/Disney Sea. If only those two were a one,two punch brother and sister combo!
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "Rubbed off paint on handrails and a couple of burnt-out bulbs register very low on my radar compared to that." In the late 90s and early 00s the operational problems at Disneyland were far more pressing than a couple of burnt out light bulbs.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< ///best overall pair of Disney parks in the world/// as an inseparable pair yes, I agree--- I'd say far better than DL/DCA(Anaheim), DLP/WDSP(Paris) or any two combo from WDW(Orlando). But my dream two park attack would be a DLP/Disney Sea. >>> Certainly this can't be true based on maintenance. I was only there for one day, but the maintenance and custodial standards at DLP were simply atrocious. I've heard many times that it's clean by European standards, and that may be true. But that's no excuse for the constant intrusion of non-working show elements and other things that had clearly just been left to disrepair, especially since some of them could be so easily fixed.
Originally Posted By The Goddess Mara Disneyland Paris is notorious for dirt and disrepair. It's a shame.
Originally Posted By barboy ///Certainly this can't be true based on maintenance./// ///Disneyland Paris is notorious for dirt and disrepair. It's a shame./// Absolutely correct you two! I guess that I temporarily lost track of the topic and got carried away
