Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: Have any of you ducklings out there ever known other Disney fans who say they don't like Mickey Mouse or Minnie Mouse or Donald Duck? ORDDU: We know this one woman in New York State who says she LOVES Disney, over all, including the theme parks and most of the Disney movies out there. But, for whatever reason, she can't stand Mickey, Minnie, Goofy, Chip and Dale, etc. ORWEN: We just thought this was kind of odd since it all started with a mouse. Whenever we go to a Disney theme park with this woman, she'll be excited over the idea of seeing Ariel and Eric, since The Little Mermaid is one of her favorite Disney films. But whenever Mickey or Donald walk by, she turns her nose up at them and acts like they don't exist. She doesn't seem to know that, withoug Mickey, there would be no Ariel!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Each to their own. I love the parks, many of the films are ok, and the original shorts, while ground breaking, I always preferred Loony Toons. Many times in my life I have been given Mickey things, but I am a disney PARK (r theme environment fan). I am thankful that MM led to other things, but frankly, I am not a fan, and I hate Minnie. But I do love Donald and Goofy.
Originally Posted By Manfried Unfortunately, Disney has not done anything with Mickey Mouse other than allow him to be a spokesman for a long time. They periodically try something, then don't follow it up. Nothing like creativity by committee.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros My generation never really had a chance to know who Mickey was, so I don't feel any particular connection to him, or most of the 'gang'. It's not that I dislike those characters, I just feel pretty indifferent toward them. Like Dave, I'm more a fan of the parks, and that was pretty much my only connection to those characters growing up. I'd see them in the park, wonder why they were attracting such a big crowd, and then go merrily along on my way. I do appreciate what they've led to, but the characters themselves seem kind of bland and corporate these days. I also like how they've been putting more effort into introducing them to kids in recent years, with Mickey Mouse Clubhouse and House of Mouse before that. The characters are fine, but hardly the reason that I'm a fan of Disney's stuff.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>> The characters are fine, but hardly the reason that I'm a fan of Disney's stuff.<<< Exactly. Just as DLP's new 20th anniversary brochure has come out. Of the 77 pages, 4 of them have pictures of attractions (and characters) on them. Every page has toons on. It is now to the point where I really hate them all. I became the addict I am because of the wonderful themed expereiences and entertainment of the parks. I grew to appreciate the rest to try to better understand the parks. Now, I cringe every time I see a mention of the characters, and other than Nightmare Before Christmas, I cannot remember the last time I bothered to watch Disney animation out of choice. And overall, we are more likely to watch a Dreamworks film than a Disney one. I cancelled my subscription to the Disney Cinemagique today.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost >>>Each to their own. I love the parks, many of the films are ok, and the original shorts, while ground breaking, I always preferred Loony Toons. Many times in my life I have been given Mickey things, but I am a disney PARK (r theme environment fan). I am thankful that MM led to other things, but frankly, I am not a fan, and I hate Minnie. But I do love Donald and Goofy.<<< Why thanks Dave...I like you too! Anyway, there is a reason why you like Looney Toons better and that would be because they are way superior to any other cartoon short of it's time. They were visually very funny. The plot lines, although repeated never seemed to appear be the same. Bugs and the boys were top notch cartoon entertainment until the helicopter parents of the 90's decided that their little princes and princesses were to stupid to know the difference between real life and cartoons. I still, at age 63, occasionally watch some of the oldies and when Bugs and Daffy are arguing over "rabbit hunting season" and "duck hunting season" that eventually ends up with Daffy's bill either spinning around his head or upside down or gone completely, sorry but it still breaks me up. Simple physical comedy. Honestly, did any of us ever really think that, like the Coyote, we could fall off cliffs without getting killed. Maybe we were smarter. They were well planned out, funny and fast paced, well written and, lets face it, there will never be another Mel Blanc! So...'be vewy, vewy quiet, I'm hunting wabbits'...will always be part of my vocabulary.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub I must admit I love the concept of a Mickey Mouse but it is weird to see the big heads and the voices really get on my nerves. (Especially Minnie Mouse) I guess that is why Steamboat Willie is my favorite!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Lol goofyernmost, besides liking you, you made me laugh just at those few loonytoon memories. Real classics. MMC ,I agree with Minnie, I hate her voice.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub I feel bad criticizing Mickey and Minnie,tho. Minnie Mouse has a really squeaky voice and it seems to hurt my eardrums. I guess it is just me with the problem and Dave of course!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Well, to be fair, who hear drives a Model T? We can recognise the significance of an event in history, but it does not always mean things are fabulous in a contemporary context. Although I do still love the Skeleton Dance - mickey and Minnie shorts ,not so much.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost Let's face it Dave...That rabbit was despicable. Other phrases that made it into the social circle were things like..."of course, you know, this means war"..."I knew I shouldn't have made that left hand turn in Albuquerque"...and the forever memorable, "I tought I taw a puddy tat"! In the defense of Disney as well as my own, I guess, Goofy cartoons had that same free spirited abandonment of physical comedy.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Indeed, the goofy toons had some great slap stick, and of course the how to series gave some class to proceedings as well.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 "They were well planned out, funny and fast paced, well written and, lets face it, there will never be another Mel Blanc! So...'be vewy, vewy quiet, I'm hunting wabbits'...will always be part of my vocabulary." Ironically, one of the few male voices Mel didn't do.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Watching the old shorts, Mickey always made me smile, Donald and Goofy made me laugh.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 But if I'm being honest, the Looney Tunes shorts still to this day make me laugh.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I don't mind the Toons and in fact think that some of the more recent ones are Disney's best characters. I absolutely loved Boo in Monsters Inc., as well as Mike and Sully. I still see most Disney/Pixar films, but for whatever reason have passed on the Cars franchise. I liked themed environments and all the other good stuff, but mainly I just want to have fun and I manage to find some fun in just about anything I do.
Originally Posted By mawnck As with so many other very long-lived entertainment institutions, if you want to really see what the fuss was about, you have to go back to the "golden age", when the creators were at the top of their game and relatively unencumbered by audience and corporate expectations. (See also: Popeye, Peanuts, The Muppets, The Chipmunks, Rock and Roll, Congress ...) For me, the "real" Mickey is the Mickey of the 30s. I like him a lot. Postwar Mickey, smiling corporate shill? Not so much. Later cartoons got way too wrapped up in frustration humor. Or, as one animation fan put it (paraphrasing slightly for a family audience), "TAKE THE PLUNGER OFF THE DUCK'S BUTT AND GET ON WITH THE DANG CARTOON." Witches, tie your friend to a chair and force them to watch some of "Mickey Mouse in Black and White". See if that helps any.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost >>>"They were well planned out, funny and fast paced, well written and, lets face it, there will never be another Mel Blanc! So...'be vewy, vewy quiet, I'm hunting wabbits'...will always be part of my vocabulary." Ironically, one of the few male voices Mel didn't do.<<<
