Citizen Kane: Dethroned

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    Originally Posted By ecdc

    If you're a film nerd (nerd is chosen deliberately over "buff"), then you know about the BFI's Sight and Sound top ten list. It's done every ten years and it surveys critics on the best films of all-time.

    After reigning for fifty years, Citizen Kane has been toppled by Vertigo.

    <a href="http://www.bfi.org.uk/news/50-greatest-films-all-time" target="_blank">http://www.bfi.org.uk/news/50-...all-time</a>

    The top ten:

    10. 8 1/2
    9. The Passion of Joan of Ark
    8. Man with a Movie Camera
    7. The Searchers
    6. 2001: A Space Odyssey
    5. Sunrise
    4. The Rules of the Game
    3. Tokyo Story
    2. Citizen Kane
    1. Vertigo
     
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    Originally Posted By WilliamK99

    So a movie made in 1958 is now better than a movie made in 1941, even though nothing has changed in those movies in many years.

    This makes no sense, how does opinion of movies that old change? It's not like they added 3D effects are anything...

    This is why critic polls are absolutely pointless.
     
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    Originally Posted By DDMAN26

    I actually respect Citizen Kane more for essentially ushering in many film techniques still used today than I actually like it.

    And Vertigo I like very much but if I'm picking a favorite Hitchcock I'll go towards North By Northwest or Rear Window first.
     
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    Originally Posted By DDMAN26

    If I were to do a quick DDMAN top ten all time:

    1. Goodfellas
    2. The Godfather
    3. The Empire Strikes Back
    4. Sunset Boulevard
    5. Jaws
    6. The Outlaw Josey Wales
    7. 12 Angry Men
    8. The Dark Knight
    9. Aladdin
    10. Raiders of the Lost Ark
     
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    Originally Posted By magic0214

    I took a Mass Media class this past year at my high school and we watched "iconic" films from Gold Rush to Singin' In The Rain. We watched Citizen Kane and I absolutely hated it. I hated the abundance of flashbacks, it was boring, I had no feelings toward the characters...nothing. On the other hand, I loved Gone With the Wind, Singin' In The Rain, and Rear Window. But my favorite film I watched in class was Grand Hotel. THAT MOVIE WAS AWESOME!
     
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    Originally Posted By ecdc

    Watch Kane on DVD or blu-ray with Roger Ebert's audio commentary. It gives a much better perspective on why Kane is so highly regarded. It may not change your mind, but it puts it into context of film history.
     
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    Originally Posted By Autopia Deb

    Any group that puts 2001: A Space Odyssey in their top 10 is clearly stoned. I bet there's Cheet-O dust all over the survey forms.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    I've never understood the critics' love for Vertigo. I like it, but I don't think it's Hitchcock's best, or even his best of the 50's. It's got that theme of obsession that critics love and assign to Hitchcock himself, so they see it as a meta-film thing. Or something. But I always found the supposedly "deep" parts of Vertigo to be shallow and obvious.

    I love Kane, though.
     
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    Originally Posted By Terminus

    1. Cabin Boy
    2.

    Oh, BEST films of all time... Nevermind.
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    I also never saw the "greatness" in Citizen Kane. My favorite Hitchcock film was "Niagara", but I don't think that necessarily makes it great!
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    In my opinion, the GREATEST movie of all time is "The Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring".

    If you don't already know why, there is no way I could explain it to you.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    To each his own.
     
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    Originally Posted By WilliamK99

    I am partial to Gigli, an American classic.
     
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    Originally Posted By Terminus

    Never saw Gigli, but it CAN'T be as bad as Cabin Boy.
     
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    Originally Posted By WilliamK99

    Try and watch Gigli, it is incredibly horrible.
     
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    Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA

    Just caught 'Battle for Los Angeles' yesterday.

    Terrible. From beginning to end to the design of the spaceships and the aliens and the hand held camera work.

    Terrible.
     
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    Originally Posted By DDMAN26

    Was it the one with Aaron Eckhardt?

    That was pretty bad but there is a company called Asylum that makes mockbusters like Transmorphers or Snakes on a Train. I think they made one called Battle of Los Angeles, which made the other Battle film look like Citizen Kane
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    Showgirls was pretty dang bad. Gina Gershon seemed to get that it was awful, and played it for the camp it was, but everyone else took it seriously. Seriously.

    And then there are the MST3K classics... Angels' Revenge, a.k.a. Seven From Heaven (awesome), Mitchell, Puma Man - made hilarious by the MST guys, but woe be to anyone who actually has to watch them "plain."
     
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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln7WF78PolA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...WF78PolA</a>

    Because future events like these will affect you in the future! Can you prove that it didn't happen?
     
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    Originally Posted By schnebs

    Hey, it's all subjective. I had a cinema professor in college that insisted that "Victor/Victoria" was a much better film than "Chariots of Fire", even though the latter beat the former for the Best Picture Oscar.

    Considering "Chariots of Fire" managed to put me to sleep every time I tried to watch it, he may have had a point..
     

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