Originally Posted By AutoPost This topic is for Discussion of <a href="http://www.LaughingPlace.com/Latest.asp?I1=ID&I2=73438" target="_blank"><b>Latest: JHM: Why For - Pocahontas Never Came to the Rivers of America</b></a> <p>Jim Hill discusses why the Imagineers never got to build a “Pocahontas” –themed Friendly Indian Village along the Rivers of America</p>
Originally Posted By Hista98 not to mention Frointerland is supoosed to be based on actual america and not on the disney films. It's honestly the one area that is not supposed to get comerical!!!
Originally Posted By Manfried Hista98, Frontierland was actually based on Disney versions of the wild frontier; Nature's Wonderland, Tom Sawyer and Walt's version of Davy Crockett, which ran on the Disneyland television show. So, you might want to check your facts on that. Fess Parker actually made appearances as Davy Crockett in Frontierland. And there was also a Zorro and shootouts. Statues of Davy Crockett and his buddy, played by Buddy Ebsen, were also in the Fort on Tom Sawyer's Island. And I'm sure Indians stayed right by the banks of the Mississippi back in the day and waved to passengers on steamboats. (I am saying with as much sarcasm as I can muster in a post.)
Originally Posted By Hista98 im aware of that manfried. by the way davey crocket was a real person (gasp) what i meant is that it is supoosed to remian very rustic and seem like the era it is representing. if modern day movie chaecters were added in it wouldn't make sense. Cartoons in the west wouldn't work
Originally Posted By Manfried Davy was a real person. How accurate the films were is a subject of some debate. I think as long as its all in fun. By the way, Pecos Bill, the cartoon character, was the basis for part of the original Golden Horseshoe Revue. I miss that show, even when it played in Florida.
Originally Posted By Westsider For a national TV special on the Golden Horseshoe in 1962, Walt had Annette Funicello dress up as an Indian maiden and dance the Twist to a groovy rock-n-roll beat. Stuff happens. I bet the Pocohontas overlay for the Friendly Indian Village would have been nicely done and popular, at least for a few years when the movie was still fresh.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***not to mention Frointerland is supoosed to be based on actual america and not on the disney films. It's honestly the one area that is not supposed to get comerical!!!*** This is really not a smart statement. As others have mentioned, Walt Disney based the land on Disney stuff from the very beginning. "No toons" is not the same as "no Disney!", and Frontierland is no exception (granted, in the Disney iteration Pocahontas is a toon...but still a real life figure).
Originally Posted By gadzuux Pocahontas' character is about to get a real boost - apparently 'Colors of the Wind' plays as a significant part in the new WOC show. And in some circles, she's considered a disney princess. She's second tier to be sure - you don't see her traipsing around the parks in taffeta and buckskins. But I predict her profile will be going up soon. As for Jim's reference to a pocahontas village along the ROA - how much could that cost really? Swap out the teepees for some rounded huts, and throw in a couple of static figurines. Doesn't sound like much of a budget buster to me. But the window for this has come and gone. It wouldn't make much sense to do it these days. I don't think they have a lot of pocahontas merch to peddle - just the one DVD that's fifteen years old.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***And in some circles, she's considered a disney princess. She's second tier to be sure - you don't see her traipsing around the parks in taffeta and buckskins.*** Actually she does traipse around, in Tokyo Disneyland (particularly Critter Country). fwiw.
Originally Posted By mousermerf She and Tarzan traipse AK too - it's the park known for the most near-nekkid characters.
Originally Posted By Westsider Pocohontas is found in Frontierland at Disneyland quite regularly, especially from April through October. She does have a winter outfit, but she's a character they like to put out when it's warmer and she can wear the dress from the movie that is most recognizable. This past summer and fall she was out in Frontierland quite a bit.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 Weren't there rumors that this current Rivers of America refurb will include a Tony Baxter led update of the scenes along the banks? I swear I read that from either Al or somebody else supposedly "in the know". So, if it's going to happen, why the change in attitude about budget?
