Originally Posted By Mort2 1) The new park will be an enormous hit and worthy neighbor to D’land. 2) The new park will be renamed. (Disney’s Dream: See what inspired Walt’s imagination and experience a celebration of creativity.) 3) Grizzly Peak will be torn down.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney 1. Yep, pending an AMAZING marketing campaign to convince people to give it another shot. 2. I personnally think its inevitable actually. All these new idea's and with the exception of the entrance, every single attraction is all pixar/cartoon related with Calif. nothing more than a superficial reference. Its silly to keep being in denial that the theme just isn't gelling anymore, especailly with the new team on board. DCA of 2001 is clearly disappering, so why bother with a name that just doesn't fit? 3. No, if anything, it sounds like they have plans to expand it. But, while that's true, the area is so generic in terms of specific times and location, it doesn't really matter if it's a part of Cali or not since there are forest in other parts of the country and world and white water rafting is a activity anywhere and not specific to California. Of course, neither is a land full of cartoon bugs, so I rest my case lol.
Originally Posted By jonvn It will probably do very little to attendance overall. It might keep people an extra day, I don't think the rides, as announced, will really make people jump up and want to go. Hey! They just built a new Walt Disney Story! Let's go! I don't think that's going to happen. It'll have a nice entrance. It'll have some more rides, it'll be nice, I'm sure, just like it was nice before. Just a little different.
Originally Posted By EighthDwarf I agree it will be a big success and the name will probably change. I also predict: 1) There will be nay-sayers all along the way 2) There will be a lot of complaints about the construction zones 3) Darkbeer will photograph and post at least 15 photographs of the same thing each time he spots a flaw (in between jaunts at the new beer garden)
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan 1. The new water show will be a huge hit and stem the evening exodus from DCA. 2. The name of the park will be changed to Disney's Adventures. This unclutters the marketing message and silences the "But what's THAT got to do with California?" every time they want to add whatever they want. No over "theme" to the park, just assorted sections. 3. The new Main Street 2.0 entrance way is celebrated and becomes a favorite AP hangout/meeting place.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan 4. Third Park announced in 2012. DISNEY VILLIANS' LAIR theme park opens October 31, 2019 and sells boatloads of merchandise to angst ridden teens everywhere.
Originally Posted By DlandJB 1. I'm going to enjoy all the changes and line up to see all the new stuff. 2. I'm going to miss the sun icon and fountain, but precious little else. 3. If I want to read about what Al Lutz thinks of all the changes, I'm going to go to Miceage and read it there and not bother with all the threads here that want to tell me what he thinks and what other people think of what he thinks.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "It will probably do very little to attendance overall. It might keep people an extra day, I don't think the rides, as announced, will really make people jump up and want to go." I agree. What it will likely do is keep people in the park longer, which seems to be one of the park's larger problems.
Originally Posted By DLer I would think that the goal of Disney is to have enough compelling attractions in DCA that somebody would be willing to buy a ticket for that park (as opposed to getting some kind of parkhopper that splits time between the compelling Disneyland and the hald-day DCA experience). If Disney can get guests to stay at their resort property and buy a 4-day ticket, then DCA will have done its job by getting that extra day in a Disney park and getting an extra night or two at the Disney hotel/restaurant properties onsite. At WDW the "sweet spot" for Disney seems to be a 4-5 day park ticket - attendance at the parks there has been something like 15M/yr at MK and approx 10M a year each at the other parks. If Disney could wring out 10M a year at DCA along with the 15M or so a year at DL, then I would think that would be a huge success from their standpoint, particularly if the average guest stay at their onsite hotels was 4-5 nights.
Originally Posted By Skellington88 The revamped park that is completed in 2012 will be so good that the concern now is that the park will be sold out in the morning and cast members will have to tell upset and disappointed guests to go to disneyland instead.
Originally Posted By pwrof3 Locals, already knowing the failure of DCA, will go once to check it out, bash the place some more, and it will continue to be a joke. Meanwhile, tourists will be confused because they will see ads for the new DCA and expect a third park to be there. After saving all year and finally making it out to Anahiem, they will be confused and disappointed that there are still only two parks.
Originally Posted By Westsider jonvn: "It'll have a nice entrance. It'll have some more rides, it'll be nice, I'm sure, just like it was nice before. Just a little different." That's the funniest thing I've read here all night. It pains you to see them spending a Billion dollars and making unprecendented and sweeping changes to a park you've insisted was just fine from day one, doesn't it?
Originally Posted By dshyates "It'll have a nice entrance. It'll have some more rides, it'll be nice, I'm sure, just like it was nice before. Just a little different." Just like it was nice before? Where? They are ripping out or changing the look of eveything there but Grizzley peak. The whole reason they are doing this is it isn't nice now and never was. Its cold titanium and concrete. Heartless. Jon to say that the Sun Court and Walt Disney Plaza are the same but different really calls into question either your taste or your motives.
Originally Posted By tonyanton I think the new plans sound great. I was in DL over the summer and brought someone for the first time. He loved Disneyland and really enjoyed DCA, however there were really two aspects of DCA which I think kept us from spending too much time there. 1.) far less attractions (and less compelling ones) than the original park and 2.) far less atmosphere and what I call "cozy details" that DL has. From what I've seen from the announcement, both of these are being addressed with the revamp and with more yet to be announced, I think this is really an exciting time and will finally bring DCA up to its full potential.
Originally Posted By aracuanbird Nothing that has been proposed will change the fact that DCA has no connection to its primary market--locals. It is offering nothing new. Sure, all the additions will be new, but not innovative. They will do nothing to redefine the theme park experience or differentiate DCA from Disneyland. That said, I suspect the park will do a lot better in 5 years. Per caps will drive up as guests elect to eat a meal (or maybe two) within DCA. That is, if the park has a successful nighttime show. And I imagine Disneyland Resort marketing will get its confidence back, first eliminating the discounted (giveaway) passes and then aggressively pushing the place as if it were Disneyland.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney <<The revamped park that is completed in 2012 will be so good that the concern now is that the park will be sold out in the morning and cast members will have to tell upset and disappointed guests to go to disneyland instead.>> LOL!!! I also predict the new DCA will have 10's of thousands of people sleeping outside the night before it opens to christen in this new era!
Originally Posted By jonvn "It pains you to see them spending a Billion dollars " Of course it doesn't. But based on what we've seen SO FAR, it doesn't look like it's going to be all that different. "you've insisted was just fine from day one" Actually, it was fine. The problem is with a lot of you folks who keep talking like this is that you don't really know what it was and was not supposed to do, and are measuring it by your own metric, and not the metric of the people who built it. So your comments really are not all that reasonable because of that. As I said, I'm sure it will be fine. I'm glad they are adding stuff. What kind of fricking idiot would not be glad to see such a huge construction job? It is terrific that they are adding so much, but from what I've seen so far, it's all cartoons. I'll be more excited when I see some of these other non-cartoon based things come up. If they do.
Originally Posted By jonvn "Jon to say that the Sun Court and Walt Disney Plaza are the same " No, I didn't mean that those would be the same. I meant the overall park would be basically about the same. The new entrance plaza looks like it will be a much nicer shopping mall than the current one.
