Originally Posted By SIR at X-S Tech I was talking with a fellow AP the other day and made the mistake of using the word "ride" instead of "attraction". Rolling his eyes he said, "Disneyland only has one ride: Mr. Toad's Wild Ride. The rest are attractions,". This is totally untrue. Pirates of the Carribbean is a Ride, the Matterhorn is a ride, Storybook Land is a ride, The Disneyland Rail Road is a ride. Honey I Shrunk the Audience is Not a ride. The Frontierland Shooting Gallery is not a ride. The Rafts to Tom Sawyers Island is not a ride. The Tiki Room is not a ride. But they are all attractions. When the term "attraction" was adopted by the park/Company it was not merely to be different and rid the word "ride" from Disneyland. It was to make it clear when talking about all of the park offerings that there is more to do at Disneyland than just "rides". To add up all that you can experience at Disneyland (let's say it ads up to 45 things) and say "Disneyland boasts 45 rides" would be inaccurate, if that count also includes the Tarzan Treehouse, The Enchanted Tiki Room, and the Main St Opera House show of your choice. However, why exclude those things when talking about the park? Attractions as a term is meant to be used to describe all of the offerings of the Park. It was meant to broaden teh vocabulary of anyone speaking of the park who would be too quick to label everything a ride, however inaccurate that term might be. But to say that Peter Pan's Flight is not a ride is inaccurate. It is. It's also an attraction.
Originally Posted By cstephens SIR at X-S Tech wrote: > I was talking with a fellow AP the other day and made the mistake of using the word "ride" instead of "attraction". Rolling his eyes he said, "Disneyland only has one ride: Mr. Toad's Wild Ride. I'm probably going to make a number of people mad, but that attitude is what I equate with the stereotypical obnoxious AP. I think "ride" and "attraction" is simply a matter of symantics in general speaking. I can see how one might characterize something differently in the creation because they're aiming for something a bit more complex or are shooting for something else, but for me, as complicated as Pirates is, it's still a ride. I also don't freak out if someone calls it the haunted house because I know what they mean, and I don't expect everyone to know the exact name. But then, I usually refer to it as "mansion", and some people get a bit bent out of shape it you don't call each ride/attraction by it's full name, which I honestly find to be ridiculous. We were in Disneyana one day, and I noticed a man asking a CM trivia questions, I think because of the scrolling trivia questions that appear on the cash registers. The CM was trying to be polite, but I could tell she really wasn't interested in doing this and was pretty much trapped. He asked her the "how many rides" question, and when she didn't know, he pompously gave her the "only 1" answer. I flashed her a sympathetic look. /cs (waiting to be told I'm not a true fan...)
Originally Posted By SIR at X-S Tech Where the heck did this "Only one ride" question originate? I've heard it enought that I'm convinced that some stupid Tour Guide thought it up and it's been perpetuated throughout the AP world. Thanks for sympathizing cs
Originally Posted By imadisneygal When I was a Tour Guide the offical answer to that question was "none." Everything is an attraction. I don't buy the Mr. Toad thing. I think the person was just being obnoxious. That sounds just like something that countless AP's would ask me in City Hall and then scoff when I didn't know the answer. Gimme a break... I'd vote for it being made up by an AP and being perpetuated in the internet world.
Originally Posted By Nobody ^^ I'm sure it was something like that, Sir. It's just a silly little joke. For years, Disney themselves touted Disneyland as having "over 50 rides and attractions". That was their way of saying that not everything that you stood in line for and used a ticket on would actually transport you somewhere. Next time you see that AP holder, ask him why the pre-recorded prospector on Big Thunder calls it "the wildest RIDE in the wiiiiiiiilderness". ;-)
Originally Posted By RAM1984 >>a matter of symantics<< That is what it is all right. >>(waiting to be told I'm not a true fan...)<< Not by me. I am a true fan and find the hyperbole obnoxious at the very least. On the tour we took in November the guide did the "how many rides/Mr. Toad" thing. I have no idea where it started. I like it when the CM's ask me trivia questions but would never take it upon myself to quiz them. Is that in the job discription? Must have large trivia catalogue in brain.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub On the tour,Walts concept was DL was a constantly changing dramatic theatrical attraction.Maybe a tour guide could explain it better.
Originally Posted By PirateJohn Well, when I looked at the Pirates console, I did see a button that said "Ride Stop." But nowhere have I ever seen a button that says "Attraction Stop."
Originally Posted By alexbook If you want to get technical, I suppose the "ride" could be the vehicle and the track, while the "attraction" would be the whole environment with the music and the entertainment in the queue area and so on.
Originally Posted By monorailblue Here's the answer: Only one "Ride." Many "rides." Many "Attractions, both rides, non-rides and the one Ride." See? It works nicely.
Originally Posted By PirateJohn >>How about just "lots of stuff to do"? Hmm, somehow I don't think "Mr. Toad's Wild Stuff" has the same ring to it...
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Originally Posted By Blacksheep Uncle 1 ride huh...what about "this here's the wildest RIDE in the wilderness"???
Originally Posted By cstephens PirateJohn wrote: > Hmm, somehow I don't think "Mr. Toad's Wild Stuff" has the same ring to it... Actually, it has *quite* a ring to it, but I'm not sure it would then be suitable for the kiddies. Disney Luver 2005 wrote: > ok im sorry but what a stupid topic! who cares! get some interesting topics..not this! geez If you're not interested in contributing to the topic, then by all means, stay out of the topic, but it's really unnecessary to post a completely rude response. /cs
Originally Posted By crapshoot In the early days of Walt Disney's Disneyland, circa 1957, the classifications were as follows: RIDES AND AMUSEMENTS (OH-MY-GOD!) Main St. Cinema: Amusement Surrey Ride: Ride Skyway Ride To Fantasyland: Ride 20,000 Leagues under the Sea Exhibit: Amusement (Scratches head) Peter Pan Ride: Ride Mad Hatter Tea Cup Ride: Ride Mickey Mouse Club Cartoon Theater: Amusement Indian War Canoes Ride & Village: Ride and Amusement Western Freight Train Ride: Ride Jungle River Boat Ride: Ride FREE EXHIBITS & SHOWS Pianos & Organs: Exhibit Upjohn Pharmacy: Exhibit American Dairy Association: Exhibit Richfield oil Corporation: Show Golden Horseshoe Saloon (Pepsi-Cola presents complete Old Western Stage Show): Show SHOPS AND STORES Gem Shop: Shop Music Store: Store FOOD & REFRESHMENTS Grape Juice Stand (Welch's): Refreshment Pirate Ship Restaurant (Chicken of the Sea): Restaurant "Now class, please don't fall asleep." Looking ahead at 1963 Walt Disney's Guide To Disneyland: ATTRACTIONS & AMUSEMENTS (Now we get to use both the "ATTraction" and AMUsement words. Horseless Carriage: ATT Penny Arcade: AMU Mike Fink Keelboat: ATT Jungle Riverboat Safari: ATT Big Game Shooting Gallery: AMU SPECIAL SHOWS & EXHIBITS Pepsi-cola Golden Horseshoe Review FOOD AND REFRESHMENTS Golden Horseshoe (Pepsi-cola): Refreshments And all that lasts at least up to 1966, which is the latest year my collection goes up to. But we do lose the term RIDE in the early 1960's for the more sophisticated; ATTRACTION term. But many Attractions still carry the Ride term in their title. OK, so I was bored.
Originally Posted By Disney Luver 2005 im sorry i just felt like saying something rude due to the rude comments i got from the DL or WDW topic..sorry
Originally Posted By cstephens Disney Luver 2005 wrote: > im sorry i just felt like saying something rude due to the rude comments i got from the DL or WDW topic..sorry If someone is rude to you on another topic, it is NOT ok to then be rude to other people for no reason. If you have a problem with someone's post and think it violates community standards, then click on the "report this topic to a moderator" link. Sorry to everyone else for the derail. /cs
Originally Posted By Disney Luver 2005 no it didnt... they just said my opinion was a 'joke' which i dint appreciate it...plus im not a little kid..i dont go tattling to the Boards, but Im sorry that was a rude comment and I apologize. TAKE MY NEW QUIZ!!!!!!! i posted it!!
Originally Posted By avromark Do you suppose elevators could be classified as a ride? Then you could say theres rides in the hotels.