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    Originally Posted By DAR

    So the movie opens tonight. Reviews are starting to pour in. Many are comparing it to Independence Day where it is all spectacle, but there's not much of a story or logic to it. Of course it's about giant alien robots fighting each other, what more nuances do you want. But those that like have a lot of fun with it.
     
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    Originally Posted By WorldDisney

    SEE IT!!!!

    I saw it on Saturday and man it was easily my favorite movie this summer so far! (I know, not saying much ;)).

    Is it perfect, NO!! But is it fun, entertaining, amazing effects and just never slows down? Yes, yes, yes and YES!!!!! Transformers WILL be the surprise hit of the summer IMO. The kid who was the main character EASILY gave a range I didn't expect (no wonder why he's in Indy 4), the effects just beyound amazing and was actually FUNNY!!! In other words, it didn't take itself so seriously. Just a fun, fun movie.

    Everyone who I saw it this past weekend, around 6 of us, all loved it, but we were 90% boys lol. Certainly can't the same about POTC 3: AWE-ful when we came out of the theater! But yeah, everyone who seen it seems to honestly love it, so I think most of you will like it too :).
     
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    Originally Posted By DAR

    I imagine this would play huge in your part of the world since they practically invented giant robots.

    I'm also a Michael Bay fan. I loved the Rock, liked Armageddon and the Island. Hated Pearl Harbor. But the one movie that made me a fan of this guy was Bad Boys 2. That movie is so ridiculous, so over the top and really so un-PC that I just had to give in.
     
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    Originally Posted By cstephens

    We're going on Wednesday.



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    Originally Posted By mickeymeg

    I can't wait to see this !
     
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    Originally Posted By WorldDisney

    <<I'm also a Michael Bay fan. I loved the Rock, liked Armageddon and the Island. Hated Pearl Harbor. But the one movie that made me a fan of this guy was Bad Boys 2. That movie is so ridiculous, so over the top and really so un-PC that I just had to give in.>>

    Wow EXACTLY my take too :). Pearl Harbor was the worst, but because it was trying to get Bay to be some kind of historical/social orientated director dealing with a 3 way romance NOBODY cared for. But, when he sticks to what he knows, great action and visuals with a fun story then its allll good. Yes, from Bad Boys 2 to The Island to now Transformers, he's just gets better and better with each film.

    I mean Bad Boys 2 was such a huge adrenaline, over the top CRAZY I couldn't believe what I was watching lol. It just.never.stopped!

    As for Transformers, NOT so over the top when you take the fact away they are alien shape shifting robots lol, but the action is GOOOD!! Some of super quick cuts gets a little too much sometimes but pretty good overall :).
     
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    Originally Posted By Spooky Ghost

    I think im gonna sit this one out, I've seen all of Bays other movies and while none of them are... good, i've found some entertainment in all of them except Pearl Harbor. But just yeah, this looks beyond terrible and the fact that it pushes 2.5 hours I just dont think I can really bring myself to do it.
     
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    Originally Posted By WorldDisney

    ^^Your progative, but if you manage to sit at POTC 3: AWE-ful at nearly 3 hours and LIKED it, I think Transformers will be a pleasant surprise....or maybe not lol.
     
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    Originally Posted By Spooky Ghost

    Ill probably see it eventually... but i'm not going outta my way for it. I just cant see to find anything in it to pique my interest
     
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    Originally Posted By DAR

    You mean you're not a fun of GIANT ROBOTS fighting each other????!!! ;)
     
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    Originally Posted By jdub

    The comparisons to Independence Day are apt--it does definitely swing into the direction of a hard rocking prolonged alien attack battle spectacle, VERY intense. Bringing earplugs for a tiny bit of volume control is not a bad idea!

    Oh, & also:
    Watch for other 80's toys throughout the movie!
     
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    Originally Posted By mickeymeg

    I haven't seen it yet, but I noticed a My Little Pony in the trailer. We have tickets for Thursday night, I wanted to see it sooner but that was the first day that everyone who wanted to see it together had free.
     
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    Originally Posted By CuriosWolfSo

    >>Watch for other 80's toys throughout the movie!<<

    When during the battle in the city, one of the Tranformers pick up a truck..notice what the truck is full of!
     
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    Originally Posted By mickeymeg

    Thanks CuriosWolf, I will try to remember to look for that =)
     
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    Originally Posted By Santa Monica

    The movie is pretty good, but it's a bit too long. Well, it takes a really long time to get to the story. Also I do think it is too loud (but that's to be expected) and the action is too close during robot fights (it's hard to see what's going on). Other than that, it's an entertaining and often funny movie.

    Did anyone see the JJ Abrams movie trailer? I thought that was amazing.
     
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    Originally Posted By cstephens

    OK, I can't tell if this is a spoiler thread or not. So, I'm going to put the warning here - my post contains mega-spoilers about the movie, including the ending of the film. If you're avoiding spoilers, skip my post altogether. If people prefer to keep this as a non-spoilers thread, then I'll ask the mods to delete my post and I'll start a separate spoiler thread. Thanks.






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    Transformers - I liked the movie a lot, and it's definitely a spectacular action picture. It's very cartoony in the sense that you don't see any actual people dying even though buildings are crumbling all around you. It's apparently supposed to be set in some made-up city, but having an obvious shot of Dodger Stadium and a fairly significant scene at the Griffith Observatory meant I didn't know it wasn't supposed to be Los Angeles until the husband and friends told me that after the movie.

    Someone on another board expressed a general dislike for Shia Leboef (sp?), and I'd be curious where that stems from. I didn't see "Disturbia", but I thought he was terrific in this, and I'm looking forward to seeing him in Indy 4 - I can totally see him as Indy's son, even though he's fairly young.

    The bots were incredible to watch, especially the transformation scenes. This movie would have been basically impossible to make as a live-action film without the invention of digital special effects.

    Parts of the story confused me though. I didn't completely understand the deal with the cube - which in and of itself was distracting to me since I kept thinking the Borg were related to the Autobots and Decepticons, but I digress - or what it's properties were. They said Megatron wanted it to turn all the machines on Earth bad and add them to his army, and when we saw the effect of the cube on the cel phone during the demonstration, it did make the cel phone turn violent. But why is the cube's effect always negative? It can't turn machines into Autobots? And when Optimus told Sam that he would sacrifice himself to destroy the cube, I thought he was just going to blow up or something, so I don't understand exactly what happened when Sam put the cube against Megatron. How did touching the cube kill Megatron? And was there any signifcance to Optimus pulling out a remaining part of the cube from Megatron? And speaking of which, what was with killing Megatron in the first movie? You've gotta figure they're thinking of this as a franchise, so you kill the amazing leader of the bad guys in the first film? Weird.

    I really liked the actress who played the lead. And I thought it was great that she had a jail-bird father and had a rap sheet herself *and* she was the one who hot-wired the tow truck!

    The use of particular music in parts had us laughing hysterically. But is someone of Sam's age even going to know "Drive" by The Cars, much less "Baby Come Back" by Player?

    Josh Duhamel was terrific in this film, and it's been interesting to watch his leap from soap operas to network television to feature films. He's been in a few other movies, but this is the one that I think will really put him on the map. He wasn't just playing the pretty boy and had a lot to do. I'm looking forward to watching his career continue to blossom.


    I might see this film in the theatres again since I was distracted for parts of it and I didn't actually see the entire film. We saw the film at the DTD Anaheim AMC theatres, which we go to often and love. It must have been Twilight Zone day though. There was apparently a convention of the Paris Hilton/Jacob Marley fan club, and they all decided to see this film at the same time we did. The only saving grace was that their entire group sat in the very front section of the theatre, but their constant "getting out of their seats and coming back" were fairly distracting, as were their clanging, which I still haven't been able to figure out. And then to top it off, as we're watching the credits, at the point where they're doing the credits to the various car manufacturers, they turned the projector off. I was mad enough that I stood in line to talk to the guest services person, who seemed pretty frazzled anyway and told me about this and that and the other. He offered to make up for what happened, but I told him I didn't want any money - I just wanted them to fix the system.

    So, while I know there there were scenes interspersed at the beginning of the credits, and they seemed to have stopped by the time they were doing the regular crawl, for anyone who's actually seen the entire movie, was there anything else after the credits that we missed? Thanks.




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    Originally Posted By jdub

    <Parts of the story confused me though>

    I actually had no clue whatsoever what was going on--but I got the impression it really didn't matter.

    <<was there anything else after the credits...?>>

    No, surprisingly. Guess they're saving all that for TII.
     
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    Originally Posted By AuroraRose

    my attempt to answer two of the questions in the spoiler post above, so skip this if you don't want to know anything about the movie : )











    Now, I haven't seen the movie yet, but this is an educated guess...feel free to agree,or disagree...

    <<And was there any signifcance to Optimus pulling out a remaining part of the cube from Megatron>>

    My thought about this, is that the cube may have been based on the energon cubes from the cartoon. energon cubes gave the transformers their power.

    <<what was with killing Megatron in the first movie>> Two thoughts here, 1. he's not actually dead, just without power, if my above hypothesis about energon cubes is correct.
    2. Optimus prime was killed and bought back a few times, i think in 84, 88, and 2006, soooo anything is possible :)
     
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    Originally Posted By iceknyght

    Great movie! Being a child of the 80's and a self-declared Transformers geek, I'd say they did a pretty good job overall! About an 8 out of 10... I had issues with a few things, but was generally impressed with how they handled a lot of the details. Great first movie, can't wait for another one! :)


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    >>Sam put the cube against Megatron. How did touching the cube kill Megatron? And was there any signifcance to Optimus pulling out a remaining part of the cube from Megatron? And speaking of which, what was with killing Megatron in the first movie? You've gotta figure they're thinking of this as a franchise, so you kill the amazing leader of the bad guys in the first film? Weird<<

    They can actually go a few ways here...

    Megatron and the rest that they dumped into the ocean actually are where the base of the Decepticons in the cartoon series, so my guess is that they will be ressurected and build their base down there as they *re-group*. Now, as far as killing Megatron, they can either re-build him as Megatron or go the route of the original movie and re-cast him as Galvatron... Either way, he ain't going anywhere soon and chances are he'll be even better than in this movie... And get more screen time!

    As far as killing him with the cube, Sam put it into Megatron's chest, that's why it killed him, just like it would have killed Prime by putting it in his chest (kinda like a reverse Matrix for us Transformers fans)... Taking the piece out, I think, has a signifigance, but I have no clue what it is... I am sure we'll find out next movie... :)
     
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    Originally Posted By cstephens

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    AuroraRose wrote:
    > my attempt to answer two of the questions in the spoiler post above

    While I appreciate the attempt, I'm not sure how you can answer a question about a film you haven't seen, even if you do know the other incarnations of the story. I wasn't really looking for speculations - it's pretty clear to me that I missed something, so I was hoping that someone else who caught what they were saying in the movie could fill me in.

    > he's not actually dead, just without power

    The way they showed it, he's dead alright, not just without power. Of course, since he's a bot, I guess resurrecting him wouldn't be as impossible as resurrecting a human, but if you weren't versed in the history, I'm not sure you'd be connected enough to him (since he doesn't get all that much screen time) to care about him being resurrected.


    iceknyght wrote:
    > Megatron and the rest that they dumped into the ocean actually are where the base of the Decepticons in the cartoon series

    So that whole "this is the deepest place so the pressure will crush them" assumption doesn't work? Hmmm, I could go there since they're not made of Earth metals.

    >As far as killing him with the cube, Sam put it into Megatron's chest, that's why it killed him, just like it would have killed Prime by putting it in his chest

    OK, but *why* does having the cube on a bot's chest kill it whereas if an inanimate machine touches the cube (or gets its energy), it brings it to life?



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