Originally Posted By dagobert On May 31st Euro Disney SCA held a Shareholders Club Meeting and CEO Philippe Gas offered some new informations about the future of Disneyland Paris. This link hasa good summary of the event and what was said there: <a href="http://www.mepipe.com/2012/06/disneyland-paris-club-actionnaires.html" target="_blank">http://www.mepipe.com/2012/06/...res.html</a> Key points: * Villages Nature underway * Ratatouille to open in 2014 * Disney stores in village to be rethemed * Expansion of studios until at least 2018 + new hotel at entrance of park possibly * Disney studios to be rethemed/renamed * 20th anniversary going well * Super-dream annual passport to be created * Dreams 98% satisfaction * Re-designed website needed
Originally Posted By CDF2 Interesting point in the report about both "High-end" and "Budget" hotels being the most requested. Certainly substantiates the current Disney strategy of offering more high-end products than ever before, eh?
Originally Posted By u k fan Some interesting points there: I agree regarding Villages Nature that unless they are expecting people to visit DLP and the wider area a week is a long time. Especially at the prices they'll charge. No mention of the waterpark and who it'll be open to, but given that locals are mentioned that seems to be a good sign. I'll be interested to see what transpires for Val d'Europe - sounds intriguing. I'm not convinced about the single menu concept for Rat... I think if there were more eateries in the park I'd have less of a problem with it, but I'm keen to hear more. I wonder which non-Disney stores we'll be looking at for DV? I guess we'll be looking high-end. I'm trying to think what partners Disney already has. I'd love to see one of the big M&M's stores open like they have in touristy places. I suspect it'll be that sort of thing. I'm hoping the fashion stores stay at the outlet village and we get some fun family stores here. I wonder if we'll see an Apple store??? Hopefully some retheming will take place to tie it all together. If the focus is on the Studios for another 6 years where does that leave the rumored Star Wars miniland. I suspect there was an element of wishful thinking there. Any thoughts on a new theme? I'm stumped unless they're planning to change/remove/retheme some attractions. Even a very loose theme like "Disney's Hero Park" would require some redo's of current attractions. I'd prefer the change to be quick, but how could ED afford that? Good to see an increase in attendance and satisfaction since the 20th kicked off. I think they overestimated the demand for moderate rooms from the start and I bet they wished they'd built a third budget hotel. I wonder if a new hotel for WDSP (or what it becomes) could be part of the launch. A 98% satisfaction rating is fantatic for Dreams. They've finally got nighttime entertainment right. I'm pleased they'll be sorting the restaurant issue. I wouldn't be against seeing more food vendors on the street in the evenings if it helps. The evening ticket sounds great, but I'd prefer it to be in the off-season only. I wonder what the new AP will offer and at what price? With the price increases DL has seen recently this could lead the way for price-hike for all APs or it could help keep the current passes at the current rate while Disney takes the super-rabid fans to the cleaners. Let's be honest we all know there are people out there who will pay any price - for the prestige as much as anything else. I'm also pleased the website will get looked at. For a large company Disney website across the board are pretty bad. There's a lot to think about there!!!
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>but given that locals are mentioned that seems to be a good sign.<<< That's why I think the park will also be open for Disney guests. I read on the French DCP forum, that the involved companies think about ways to connect Nature Villages with DLP. One of the rumours is a tram. >>>I'm not convinced about the single menu concept for Rat... I think if there were more eateries in the park I'd have less of a problem with it, but I'm keen to hear more.<<< I'm also not a fan of this concept, but I hope that changes and that the restaurant will offer more, especially a vegetarian menu. >>>I wonder which non-Disney stores we'll be looking at for DV? I guess we'll be looking high-end. I'm trying to think what partners Disney already has. I'd love to see one of the big M&M's stores open like they have in touristy places. I suspect it'll be that sort of thing. I'm hoping the fashion stores stay at the outlet village and we get some fun family stores here. I wonder if we'll see an Apple store??? Hopefully some retheming will take place to tie it all together.<<< I loved the M&Ms store in London, but I think that's not an option in Paris, since DLP sells Ferrero and Nestle candy products, while M&Ms belongs to Mars. I also don't want to see an Apple Store and I don't think that's going to happen, because they just opened one at Val D'Europe. I can imagine to see a Coca Cola Store, like the one in Las Vegas. It seems the old Disney Store should be transformed into a new one, like the one in London. Hopefully they will sell Disney Store merchandise there, because otherwise it wouldn't make sense with the opening of WoDS. >>>If the focus is on the Studios for another 6 years where does that leave the rumored Star Wars miniland. I suspect there was an element of wishful thinking there.<<< WDSP should get all the help it can get, but ST needs a refurb as soon as possible. I really, really hope that we don't have to wait seven years to see ST 2 in Paris. >>>Any thoughts on a new theme? I'm stumped unless they're planning to change/remove/retheme some attractions. Even a very loose theme like "Disney's Hero Park" would require some redo's of current attractions. I'd prefer the change to be quick, but how could ED afford that?<<< I'm not entirely sure about a name change. On the one hand a new name can help to improve the image of the park, but I also think the current name allows to add all kinds of attractions. The entrance of the park resambles an old Studio and what's going to happen with Front Lot when a new name is introduced. In my opinion they should keep the WDSP name and operate it like Universal, where you can ride the movies. That allows to put nearly everything into the park. That doesn't exclude edutainment attractions that show the making of movies. >>>I think they overestimated the demand for moderate rooms from the start and I bet they wished they'd built a third budget hotel. I wonder if a new hotel for WDSP (or what it becomes) could be part of the launch.<<< It was always harder to get a room at the Santa Fe than at Sequoia Lodge. I wonder where the want to build a hotel for WDSP. It wouldn't make sense to build it at the back of the park. It would be too far away. I don't think there is enough space at the entrance. The easiest would be a deluxe resort between DV and NPBC. >>>A 98% satisfaction rating is fantatic for Dreams. They've finally got nighttime entertainment right. I'm pleased they'll be sorting the restaurant issue. I wouldn't be against seeing more food vendors on the street in the evenings if it helps. The evening ticket sounds great, but I'd prefer it to be in the off-season only.<<< That clearly shows that quality always wins. I haven't seen it in person yet, but friends of mine loved it and they are very critical when it comes to DLRP. >>>I'm also pleased the website will get looked at. For a large company Disney website across the board are pretty bad.<<< It's about time to relaunch the website.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt What does this mean? "The disrepair of the Tower of Terror was also mentioned - The investigation is ongoing, but it is long because it involves insurance, experts, who is responsible, ... and all that before actually doing anything about it."
Originally Posted By dagobert Last year small parts of the ToT facade fell down and Disney had to put a net on top. You can see a photo of the net here: <a href="http://dedicatedtodlp.com/2012/02/25/disneyland-paris-trip-report-february-2012/" target="_blank">http://dedicatedtodlp.com/2012...ry-2012/</a> You have to scroll down a bit.
Originally Posted By dagobert These things only happen at DLRP, but if I remember correctly, the net has already been removed.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I saw the net when I was there at the beginning of May, but I didn't know why it was there. I guess it's the easy way to 'temporarily' fix the problem (like the scaffholding under the outdoor portions of DL's Alice in Wonderland attraction), but it seems like something that they should fix properly pretty quickly (and we're about to enter Alice's 3rd year with the 'temporary' fix) Although I agree that DLP is pretty stable in comparison to WDSP, I think that 6-7 years is far too long before anysignificant addition. It's already been a very long time since the park's last major addition (Space Mountain Mission 2, right?), and things are starting to show their age. If they can pick up the general maintenance it will help, but they'll still need something beyond Dreams to keep the crowds coming.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Not a single mention of anything new for the main park! Fantasyland and Discovery Bay could stand something new, and both lands have room. I see the main park falling into the same pattern as the Magic Kingdom park in Florida - stagnate for years, and years to come!
Originally Posted By dagobert At least DLP has an excuse for not adding anything to the new park. They don't make any money, while WDW is a cash cow. Honestly it's frustrating what's happening in Paris. It seems they don't have any real plans for the future. I don't need a new big ride at DLP, but they should at least keep the park well maintained. The only new thing I'd like to see is ST:II. I do understand that they want to focus on WDSP, but it's happening so slowly. One new ride in two years, that's not an expansion.
Originally Posted By dagobert Disney and More has posted a new update on Ratatouille and World of Disney Store. <a href="http://disneyandmore.blogspot.co.at/2012/06/disneyland-paris-update-world-of-disney.html" target="_blank">http://disneyandmore.blogspot....ney.html</a>
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Fantasyland and Discovery Bay could stand something new, and both lands have room.>> I think the Snow White coaster coming to the MK would make a great addition to DLP's Fantasyland. And Discoveryland really just needs a refurb from head to toe. Aside from the Nautilus, everything looked pretty worn in April when I was there.
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>And Discoveryland really just needs a refurb from head to toe. Aside from the Nautilus, everything looked pretty worn in April when I was there.<<< What did the Nautilus look like when you have been. I'm asking, because it received a bigger refurb on the outside. They drawned the whole pool and it looked really good on the pictures after the refurb.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Hi Dagobert, it looked like new inside and out, with all the effects working in April (the only thing that did)
Originally Posted By dagobert Hi Dave, good to know that. I've always enjoyed walking through the Nautilus. Unfortunately it's an overlooked attraction.
Originally Posted By dagobert Mr. Freddy from the French Disney Forum "Disney Central Plaza" has posted an interview with Euro Disney SCA CEO Philippe Gas. <a href="http://www.disneycentralplaza.com/t28146p540-futurs-developpements-2015-2022-rumeurs-diverses" target="_blank">http://www.disneycentralplaza....diverses</a> Here's a very interesting part regarding the future of the resort: Thanks to Googs Translator, here it is in Englisch. While Philippe Gas does not confirm any (finance all the new not yet tied) this is what the future should look like Disneyland Paris ... In 2013. If plans work out as expected, the controller of Johnny Depp aka Jack Sparrow, will take place in the Pirates of the Caribbean attraction, which will be renovated. In 2014. There, that's for sure, studios welcome Ratatouille. This will be an attraction revolutionary technically, in 3D, where, in vehicles, visitors will have the impression of being reduced to the size of a rat and being sued by cooks! In 2015. It raises the possibility of the upgrade of the Star Tours attraction (which is now in 3D with 56 different destinations!). But are awaiting confirmation. In 2016. Philippe Gas is carefully considering the idea of installing a new interactive attraction in 3D (really!) On Toy Story "to return often avoiding any sense of repetition." Also in 2016 (but here it is acquired), opening Villages nature and its water park. 2017/2018. Part of the Studios should be transformed to accommodate the Marvel superheroes (which Disney owns the rights) as the Avengers.
Originally Posted By dagobert Here's the rest of the interview: That's Part 1: >>>"Disneyland Paris will not stop growing" Philippe Gas, the big boss of Disneyland, takes stock for 20 years and the park evokes the opening of future attractions Twenty years. For two decades the castle of Sleeping Beauty overlooking the plains of Marne-la-Vallee. With more than 16 million visitors in 2011 and more than 250 million since 1992, Disneyland Paris is the most visited tourist site in Europe. Philippe Gas, the owner of Disneyland Paris, speaks with us, exclusively, the future of the complex. What does this anniversary in the history of the park? "20 years is a generation. There are people who came and children who are now parents themselves. Following is the age when one is ripe. This is an opportunity to see where we come from and who you are. We see that we had success, we have made mistakes and we tried to learn from our mistakes. " For these 20 years, you bet on a new night show rather than a big new attraction. Why? "Many people imagine that if there is not a new attraction, something is missing. But what drives people to come, it is also the emergency event. Take the example of my daughter: you live in Paris for several years and it never went on the Eiffel Tower. Simply because she knows she will be there next year. I think what interests me is to create urgency by offering something special that takes place for a very specific occasion. This is what the show represents Dreams. This is a unique show in the world. This is technically the most developed our show. People who have seen the show say it's great, that's really what they expect from Disney and they also talk about them. " But you will soon have new attractions? "There's going to be. But we opted for 20 years to focus on the event. People will then return to the attractions that will open in the coming years. " One of your priorities is to expand the second park, Walt Disney Studios, deemed too small for the opening ... "This is called the syndrome of the second park. They had the same criticism in California. In 2002, I was not there, but the idea was to open a smaller park and develop it later. But people were expecting something else and made the comparison with the first fleet. Which resulted in disappointment. So our goal is to make Walt Disney Studios park full day. If you look closely, all major attractions open past 5 years have been built in the second park and are now among the favorite attractions of visitors. " There is talk of a Ratatouille attraction for 2014. Work has already started ... "Ah, you seem well informed (laughs), but I still keep a little mystery about what is coming. What I can tell you is that this will not be the only attraction that will build. We will further develop the park over the next 5 years. " You hope to achieve how many visitors a year to run? "Today, we must continue to make more entries. But there is not that the volume of visitors. It is not necessary that the increased traffic to the detriment of the quality of the visit. If we hosted 20 million people today, before the opening of new attractions, it would be unfortunate for the experiment. After, in 10 years is something else, especially since it has the ability to open a third park. What is certain is that we will not stop growing. "<<<
Originally Posted By dagobert Part 2: >>>A new holiday It will open in 2016 with the largest water park in Europe, while the attractions of the park will be upgraded first Is that with this investment policy focused on Studios, the risk is not the first park becomes older? His last new attraction has 6 years! "You think, obviously. We know that in 5-7 years to come, we do not need an added attraction that increases the capacity of the first fleet. After that it is true that there are things that age. I think the 3D film Captain EO starring Michael Jackson, which is obsolete today. We must think about what we will put in place. If something has aged, we see how to improve it. " We can expect to see happen the 3D version of Star Tours as the United States? "It's something you look, of course. After the question is to see where you place this type of upgrade in our priorities. " And Jack Sparrow in Pirates of the Caribbean attraction? In the U.S., the controller of Johnny Depp was added several years ago ... "If you look closely that the renovation has made the pirate galleon near the entrance to the attraction, you will see that his new colors are very close to those of the ship of the film. So there are many chances that Jack Sparrow is coming soon in the attraction ... In the short term, our priority will be the first park to modernize some attractions like the Pirates or replace other existing attractions. To put something new in place of Captain EO or to have the new version of Star Tours. And, in the longer term, we obviously room for additional attractions. " And financially, you have the capabilities to do all this? We know that the new attraction of Studios in 2014 alone will cost 150 million euros ... "It's true that it takes time to get the agreement of the banks in particular. But that's the way since the 2005 restructuring. " We can expect to see new hotels sprout? "We are at 87% occupancy rate over the year. It's huge. In Paris, hotels are at 60%. So we need new hotels. The application is either in luxury hotels or in hotels to moderately priced. It looks so push it. " There's also the kind Villages project, a huge holiday village next to the Davy Crockett Ranch ... "It will open the first half of 2016. There is another customer. People who want to spend a week's holiday in nature. This is a totally different experience. It is behind the project, but it will not the Disney brand. Means in any case be a pioneer in the European tourism with this project is unique. The entire project is based on geothermal energy. We can bathe outside and inside all year. It also appealed to the greatest architects who have made sure that everything is integrated in nature. The buildings will change with the seasons. It will not be a new Center Park. "<<<
