Originally Posted By Darkbeer <a href="http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=80237" target="_blank">http://www.roadrunnerrecords.c om/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=80237</a> >>"In a stunning last-minute move, Walt Disney Properties have pressured promoter Live Nation into canceling MACHINE HEAD's performance tomorrow night at the House of Blues venue in Anaheim (on their Disneyland property). Citing violent imagery, undesirable fans and inflammatory lyrics as the reason, the diversity-impaired corporation began pressuring the promoter on Saturday to cancel all upcoming heavy metal concerts, placing MACHINE HEAD under an internal 'review process' that took 5 days before bothering to convey their alarming decision to the band late yesterday — less than 48 hours before their Black Tyranny Tour was to kick off at House of Blues Anaheim on Friday night. "While the enactment of this new blanket rule applies to all upcoming heavy metal shows at the House Of Blues Anaheim (with some metal bands having been banned from performing on name alone), MACHINE HEAD is the first band to actually have tickets go on sale, and remain on sale for 2 months, before intense pressure and vague threats of liability from the Corporation left the promoter with no choice but to remove the show from the venue. "As a result, Live Nation's Paul McGuigan did the honorable thing and incredibly, on one days notice, managed to salvage the tour's opening night by moving the first date of The Black Tyranny tour (featuring MACHINE HEAD, ARCH ENEMY, THROWDOWN, and SANCTITY) to The Glass House in Pomona, CA (located at 200 W. Second Street). All existing tickets will be redeemable for entry at The Glass House, and all Will Call pickups will now be available for pickup at the new venue. Any fans unable to make the 70-mile trip to The Glass House as a result of this ridiculous turn of events will be able to have their money refunded in full. Strangely, all other Black Tyranny dates at House Of Blues venues on Disney property will remain unaffected. "On behalf of all four bands on the bill, MACHINE HEAD wish to extend their gratitude to promoter Paul McGuigan and Live Nation for finding an alternate venue for tomorrow night's show on such short notice." <<
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo WHAT THE !!!!! I saw Machine Head at the Metallica Gig in London and they were fine. Does this mean only teenbopper pop will be allowed at HOB? I don't get it? They have welcomed the Cure, Marlyn Manson, Slash's Snakepit and many more over the years. This sucks.
Originally Posted By jonvn Hadn't heard of them. Looked them up. They look like they produce crap. Glad they're gone.
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Originally Posted By debtee Well if people think it's garbage they don't have to buy a ticket do they! I'm with Dave this sucks, being politically correct is getting out of control in America!
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA I think Disney is smart to enact a bit of a policy at the House of Blues. Sure, it's a venue for live shows, but I think if Disney wants to control the type of groups that play there, they have that right. I'm listening to Machine Head's cut of 'Aesthetics of Hate' -- it has that hard driving beat, the growling lead singer, and is filled with 37 expletives including the 'F' word. Right on. That's fine for an Alternative Metal band, but perhaps not at Downtown Disney.
Originally Posted By jonvn They can go behave in whatever manner they want under whatever rocks they can crawl under. But if I go to DTD, I don't want to be around this sort of thing.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA I think music and entertainment is all subjective, jonvn. One man's garbage is another man's music -- whatever. To each his own. I do agree though, that Downtown Disney should skew to a more 'wholesome' type of demographic and entertainment. Less 'Machine Head' and more 'Talking Heads' -- or something...
Originally Posted By jonvn "I think music and entertainment is all subjective, jonvn." I think if the customers of this sort of thing have a proclvity to be violent then this is not true.
Originally Posted By alexbook Here's a Boston Herald article, with pretty much the same info plus a statement that "a House of Blues spokeswoman was not immediately available": <a href="http://www.bostonherald.com/business/general/view.bg?articleid=1029818" target="_blank">http://www.bostonherald.com/bu siness/general/view.bg?articleid=1029818</a> I'm not thrilled about Disney telling HoB what bands to book, but I suppose it's their right as the landlord. Still, I have to wonder what changed in the last week to make this band suddenly unacceptable.
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<They can go behave in whatever manner they want under whatever rocks they can crawl under. But if I go to DTD, I don't want to be around this sort of thing.>> <<I do agree though, that Downtown Disney should skew to a more 'wholesome' type of demographic and entertainment.>> I agree as well. But I can't help but think that Disney was trying to have its cake and eat it too. Its kind of hard to be "edgy" and "wholesome" at the same time. But I go to Disney for wholesome.
Originally Posted By dshyates Disney can have who ever they want or don't want play on their property. But this situation was handled poorly. I'm sure when the HOB was courted as a "Live" music venue the nature of the acts was discussed. I for one, don't care for their music and I care even less to hang out with their fans, but I think it is fine for non-family oriented entertainment venues. There are plenty of acts I love that I don't want to see at Disneyland.
Originally Posted By Sweeper This is the first sign Disney may be on track to have standards again. Now if they would just enforce a basic dress code at the parks again. There are MANY places for people to go and listen to bands or dress up like the dead. Disney does not NEED to allow this and NOBODY is being denied their rights. Just drive down the street and see those bands somewhere else and play dress up at Halloween or a nightclub where it is no big deal.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 Thanks, dshyates! You wrote just about exactly what I'd been wanting to express. <<I'm with Dave this sucks, being politically correct is getting out of control in America!>> I agree that PC is frequently out of control in the US. Just as frequently, I think, there are cases in which acts of basic justice are criticized as examples of "political correctness" by those who have an interest in maintaining the unjust status quo. (But that's a discussion for World Events, I think!) Anyhow, interesting perspective, debtee. You're saying that Disney is acting PC by booting the band? I would have guessed that the PC Police would rule that Disney needed to let the band play. The PC'ers would say we can't discriminate on the basis of political, socioeconomic, or cultural factors. Or on the fact that some audiences predictably tend more toward vandalism and violence than others. Or that the band doesn't mesh well with a corporate image. In other words, if Darkbeer is stating that Disney is wrong here, as is implied by the title's thread, "Disney banning acts at DtD House of Blues", he's being politically correct. Who woulda thought?!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>"I think music and entertainment is all subjective, jonvn." I think if the customers of this sort of thing have a proclvity to be violent then this is not true.<<< What a crock jonvn. Having been a bouncer in both a rock/metal club and a pop/mainstream venue, I can say I only ever had to intervene twice in 2 years at the Rock Club, but it was a several times a night at the mainstream club. Most metal fans are actually vegetarian pacifists in my experience.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>I for one, don't care for their music and I care even less to hang out with their fans<<< Really - so you wouldn't want to meet at DL? I agree that it is not the most wholesome, but there have been gangster rap and heavy metal bands playing HOB at DL and WDW for years. Why this recent spark? But it's amazing how people get up in arms if gay days are critiqued, but then heavy metal fan are castigated. Talk about your double standards. Personally I would rather be surrounded by metal heads than cheerleaders or Night of Joy folks.
