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    Originally Posted By leemac

    Hi LP-ers

    I've got a question for you:

    If the following product was available directly from WDW would you:

    1) Buy it; and
    2) What price point would you expect that is in line with other comparable merchandise.

    Wonders of Life Soundtrack:

    CD(s) featuring the David Newman's original score to Cranium Command (and pre-show), Leonard Rosenman's Body Wars score and Bruce Broughton's The Making of Me score.
    Booklet talking about the development of the pavilion and the scoring of those attraction
    Limited edition packaging.

    This could be the first in a line of in-park collectible LE CDs.

    I'd appreciate your insights!

    Cheers,


    Lee
     
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    Originally Posted By hopemax

    Probably, not as much as whoever producing it wants to charge.

    As soon, as I buy music, it's gets ripped in iTunes and played on the computer and iPod/iPad. LE packaging does absolutely nothing for me, as I never see it. The physical CD gets packed in a box, never to be seen again. So I value music tracks at the cost for downloads. So $9.99-$12 for a full-album. $1-$1.50 per track for smaller track lists. At this point, I prefer digital downloads. Since you mention the book, I think I'd prefer the book come with a code to download the album through iTunes, rather than buying a physical CD.

    Now, a small book (think children's hardcover size, or LP magazine size) with interesting details is valuable to me. But, value would again be along the lines of those prices so along the same price as Tales. $10, $15 maybe if it was hardcover. Less, if it is smaller. If it's only slightly expanded liner notes, I would only add a couple dollars to the price of the tracks.

    So as a package, $15-$25. $20 or less, I would absolutely buy them; probably any of them. Over $20, I would snatch up my favorite attractions, and hem and haw over the rest.
     
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    Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

    If it's more than the music, and it seems to be... Yes, I would. I'd me interested in the book.

    As for the music, I have some of it thanks to Mousebits. :)
     
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    Originally Posted By hopemax

    Now, another thing I want to mentions that frustrates me to no end. Disney, and others will produce a great line of merchandise. A line that I want to own the whole thing, but I have limited resources; and can't buy everything all at once. So on the 1st trip, I will buy my favorites, the next trip buy the next group of favorites, another trip plan to buy the third tier, and so on. I look forward to adding to my collection. I will stash away money in anticipation of adding to the collection.

    But what tends to happen is that in 12-18 months most of the line is discontinued except for the most popular pieces (which were the ones I bought on my first trip). I end up grumbling, and then rewarding some Ebay seller who stocked up at the Outlet store and paying more than original retail, to complete my collection. So just because certain titles are not "hot-sellers" from the get-go, does not mean they are not desired.
     
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    Originally Posted By leemac

    <<Probably, not as much as whoever producing it wants to charge.>>

    One of the major hurdles over any of these CD releases is the fact that WDP&R rarely gets clearance for release for a product - so you have to go back and negotiate to include the music on a CD. So it can be a costly business.

    And then there is the "demand" issue. It looks like DLR have passed on the World of Color soundtrack now - crazy considering the success of the show.
     
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    Originally Posted By DlandDug

    I would buy the package described for Horizons and Imagination in a heartbeat.

    If all the past soundtracks were available on iTunes, I feel they would get respectable sales. Nothing spectacular, but steady. It would certainly beat all the grainy, dangerous bootlegs floating around the internet.

    I understand clearance issues, especially for material produced in the last century, before these considerations were even thought about. But I can't help but think that theme park produced material should be fairly easy to clear up and get out there.
     
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    Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

    My first question was going to be 'who will be releasing it?'

    I'd be interested, but I am interested in most things Disney (please hold the vinyl please) and feel they've missed the boat on the music of the parks.

    BUT ... I am also very against seeing others make a living off of Disney (see any of my rants about the DVDs that are sold by 'fans' that Legal should be stopping). If this came from Disney, sure I'd buy it.

    I do think Disney is missing a very big chance to make money itself on products like park DVDs and certainly soundtracks.

    It blows my mind (after seeing WoC three times in the past week or so) that there is no soundtrack for sale. Paris would sell it. Tokyo would sell it. Yet, DL thinks pins, vinyls, cups, tees and sweatshirts are all anyone wants.

    Of course, if this were Tokyo you'd likely have bags, napkins, cups etc all promoting WoC instead of the cheap and insipid 'DL: Where Dreams Come True ... Celebrate Today' covering (perhaps in honor of the latest gulf oil 'splosion, I should use the word 'coating') everything.

    ~Walmarting will kill mice~
     
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    Originally Posted By DlandDug

    Oh, as far as price point, the described item sounds like a $20-40 item, depending on the booklet and "LE packaging." I am more interested in the information and images than in clever packages. (Though I appreciate good design.) If the booklet is well produced and could stand alone, the price point could be higher.

    (I just can't imagine a really top drawer book on JUST The Wonders of Life pavilion, though.)
     
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    Originally Posted By HokieSkipper

    Possibly.
     
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    Originally Posted By gurgitoy2

    I'm an avid park music collector. This sounds interesting, and very limited. Considering the Wonders of Life pavilion is defunct, I'm assuming this would be aimed at the "hardcore" fanbase? The average guest wouldn't care one way or the other about it.

    Price, I would say about $20 sounds right if it's just one CD. With LE booklet and multiple CD's, possibly $30. The thing is, you need to keep it relative. I understand about clearance issues, and rights costs. Look at the Walt Disney and the 1964 World's Fair CD set. That one had some major hurdles to get over (especially the Ford stuff) before seeing the light of day. The price point on that is $40 for a 5 disc set! So...yeah, I would buy it in a heartbeat if it was an official release, but please don't go crazy. I mean that LE Haunted Mansion set with the 2 CD's, and reproduction LP cost $100...that was way too much, and I think fans thought so as well since it didn't sell as fast as they would have liked.
     
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    Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

    >>>It blows my mind (after seeing WoC three times in the past week or so) that there is no soundtrack for sale. Paris would sell it. Tokyo would sell it. Yet, DL thinks pins, vinyls, cups, tees and sweatshirts are all anyone wants.<<<

    Hell, WDW would sell it...We had NT CDs for MSEP!
     
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    Originally Posted By leobloom

    >> Hell, WDW would sell it...We had NT CDs for MSEP! <<

    Didn't know that. This is, what, the seventeenth time the MSEP music has been made commercially available?

    If I may...

    ~That Mickey Mouse sure does love beating a dead electrical parade!~
     
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    Originally Posted By HokieSkipper

    Who would want to buy that music anyway? It's like nails on a chalk board.

    ~Wonder if Space Mountain had the same composer~
     
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    Originally Posted By leobloom

    >> Who would want to buy that music anyway? It's like nails on a chalk board. <<

    You have to drop acid while you're listening to it to get the full effect.
     
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    Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA

    <-- bought it when I was about 10 years old on a smaller 33 rpm record album.

    Maybe I still have it...

    It was this one.
    <a href="http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/02df656943e65606ba06e30d5baf6dfd/816225.jpg" target="_blank">http://static.rateyourmusic.co...6225.jpg</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By alexbook

    Might be interested, if it were priced as a regular CD. No way I'm paying LE prices. Sorry.
     
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    Originally Posted By standor

    Most disney attractions can be seen on you tube. Would rather see it than hear it on a cd.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub

    I would prefer Disney quality to youtube fan based. Since I am probably one of the few who purchased Disney's On the Record and Candlelight Processional(WDW) in triplicate now since I keep lending them out or wearing them out. I would definitely purchase from Disney and usually pay their price. While we are placing personal requests I would love a DVD based on their commercials/ History.
    I agree with most LP comments that Disney really misses the market with their unique music in shows and parades. I remeber the old video of a Day in Disneyland. Still interesting to be able to see the vintage lands and all the changes and progress that has been made. I also have a fan based DVD (computer digitally creation) Adventure thru Inner Space Virtual Ride Thru. All I can say is it is really trippy!
     
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    Originally Posted By FerretAfros

    I think that if they were to be sold as separate CD's for each pavilion, around $20 would be right. If they were all combined into a bigger package (like the 50th set with 6 discs, hardcover book, and vinyl LP), I might be willing to pay more, depending on the quality of the extras. I don't remember the exact pricing of the 50th set, but I thought it was pretty fair with all that was included.

    And I would only buy them if I could get CD's. I have no interest in buying them off iTunes, which is why I don't have the soundtrack from Up (yes, I'm still bitter).
     
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    Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

    >>>Didn't know that. This is, what, the seventeenth time the MSEP music has been made commercially available?<<<

    Just about. LOL.

    And it sold out, too! I couldn't get a copy in June...
     

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