Originally Posted By Rebekah This topic is for discussion of the 8/23/2002 news item <b><a href="http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/368/368712p1.html" target="_blank">FilmForce: Preview of Pirates of the Caribbean Storyline</a></b> <I>FilmForce</I> in their August 22nd update offers a thorough synopsis of Disney's <I>Pirates of the Caribbean</I> storyline. <small>Story first spotted on DarkHorizons.com</small>
Originally Posted By kennect I could almost see this socalled preview/review of the film working if they would actually take scenes from the attractions and recreate them in the film....For me personally there just seems to be something very wrong in this whole concept of basing films on theme park attractions...The concept is great but what we have seen and have knowledge of at this point doesn't tell us that anything here is going to be memorable...I want to see the film based on the haunted mansion as a really rich haunted house tale that has nothing to do with Eddie Murphy and his family...I want to see a period piece not only done well but with a screenplay that is written well....Am I nuts or am I just asking too much for the moment? I think I am asking too much....Better part to keep in mind is they are going to have to build some new major attractions in the parks if this film/themepark attraction thing catches on...Otherwise they won't have anything new to make a movie about...I really hate to sound so mean but it just seems things around here with Disney are truly getting stranger than fiction....I just keep thinking of that TOT film that they made that apparently I was the only one that saw it around here...Wasn't that enough to tell them these attractions don't make for good story lines??????
Originally Posted By terwyn These theme park inspired films sounds a lot like the shlock Disney produced in the late 1960's and throughout the '70's which was the nadir of post Walt creativity for the company. This squandering of Disney quality back then paved the way for the revival of Disney in the mid-80's by a brash young entertainment executive. Deja vue all over again??
Originally Posted By abu233 I think that Walt would have made a Pirate movie if he lived longer. From what I read the movie has a good plot and does follow the ride at DL and WDW. Disney even went out of their way to get a ship that sailed in the days of pirates for movie on lone. No I don't know Walt Disney but I did get a very nice letter from his oldest daughter not to long ago.
Originally Posted By arstogas I'm a bit concerned in re-reading... the plot is kind of contrived and convoluted. There doesn't seem to be much focus. It could work, definitely, but right now seems kind of episodic and lacking in structure. Then again, we're only getting cliffnotes from a guy with a website. I do like that they seem to be trying with this one.
Originally Posted By kennect I think Terwyn hit it on the head...This does sound like a throw back to a previous period with Disney live action films....
Originally Posted By TikiRoomer >>I think that Walt would have made a Pirate movie if he lived longer. I thought Walt DID make a pirate movie or two. And is it a different story or was Walt not entirely sold on an attraction based around pillaging, woman-chasing pirates? I seem to remember a story to that effect.
Originally Posted By TikiRoomer By the way, I think the opening credits should be an exaggerated, animated version of the ride, zipping past landmarks of the attraction here and there. But I'm sure they won't do that. So, are the pirates going to plunder the village of food, or is there going to be some old-fashioned skirt chasin'? "I be willin to share, I be!"
Originally Posted By GHOSTHOST1313 Bite your tongue. The age we live is far to PC to ever show skirt chase-in, People want to pretend that pirates were harmless playfull and Good baby sitters for the kiddies now days.LOL
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom Personally I don't think it going to work. In todays day and age children are up for swashbuckling pirates. Its going to come off as a two hour commercial for the ride. Disney needs to go back to the drawing board and come up with something refreshing and new instead of being concerned with the low price bottomline. Walt would have spaired no expense for a good quality movie.
Originally Posted By GHOSTHOST1313 Spared no expense huh? Is this before or after he turn over control of film production to Ron Miller? I`m just kidding, you right he would have put a lot of dough into it if he felt it was a worthy project. I can`t help thinking that Blackbeard`s ghost was done to drum up intrest in the opening of the ride, what was it 1967? No I guess that would be wrong because BG came out after the ride opened. or maybe the two...... Is this portrait of Blackbeard`s Ghost still in the end of the ride???
Originally Posted By arstogas >>>And is it a different story or was Walt not entirely sold on an attraction based around pillaging, woman-chasing pirates? I seem to remember a story to that effect<<< Oh, he seems to be VERY enthusiastic about it on that TV special on the TREASURES DISNEYLAND USA disk... Walt knew the way the whole attraction was going to look and feel before he died. He got to ride through a mockup of the auctioneer section at MAPO just before his death. >>>Disney needs to go back to the drawing board and come up with something refreshing and new instead of being concerned with the low price bottomline. Walt would have spaired no expense for a good quality movie.<<< Well, the Disney of today isn't sparing any expense on this one either... Bruckheimer's producing, which guarantees a big budget film... I haven't seen the budget on this one, but I'd guess it's easily in the 90 million range. The portrait of Peter Ustinov as Teach is still in the Pirates ride at Disneyland. Don't know about WDW's version.
Originally Posted By GHOSTHOST1313 WDW doesn`t have one, in fact it`s inferior to the DL version and refered to as the "cliff notes" version. I see that disney sold the original portrait on ebay awhile ago.
Originally Posted By realprincess Did any of you read 'Two Years Before the Mast' by Richard Henry Dana? I know it's not about Pirates but it's pretty accurate in regards of life at sea in the early 1800’s. Are you telling me that all Pirates’ were dogs and just a bunch of bad men? How about looking at it another way. Many men in those times if you weren’t the first-born son did not have many choices. The first-born son got everything back in those days. Plus many of those Pirates helped us in the American Revolution (well actually they helped both sides) but instead of Pirates you might call them entrepreneurs.
Originally Posted By GHOSTHOST1313 So Edward Teach was an Entrepreneur, Huh? LOL. I guess he would be in a certain way........ Edward Teach. keelhauler, Maybe?
Originally Posted By arstogas >>>Typical, and you would pick Blackbeard as the example of all.<<< Well, Princess, you're reacting a little too strongly here... I think Ghosthost was actually on the money here... Read up on Blackbeard and you'll find some interesting material on him... he wasn't ALL bad...
Originally Posted By realprincess That was my point. Pirates weren’t all that bad. I was kidding about Blackbeard but from reading this thread I got the impression regarding the pirate movie that people fear it would be too political correct and all I was saying was there is so much rich history regarding pirates that most people don't know. Side note- Tell me if I’m wrong but is the pirate’s movie going to a lot like the movie Goonies?
