Originally Posted By donnyaz let me know if I am alone but would it be so horrible to build a bigger castle at Disneyland ?
Originally Posted By Darkbeer I don't think it would work, especially with the Matterhorn next door. The size of the Castle works with Main Street and Fantasyland. In other "Disneylands" (Orlando, Paris, Tokyo), the entire size of the surrounding area, including large Main Streets helps keep everything in scale.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Not only that, but I like how the small castle makes everything else more believable. In WDW, you can walk through Liberty Square or Frontierland, and not really feel like you're where you're supposed to be, because you see a giant castle looming over everything. Sure, the DL castle is a little small and makes for difficult fireworks viewing, but it is small enough that it's able to hide behind the trees and other buildings, conserving the themes of the other lands (I wish I could say the same about the Astro Orbitor, which you can see from the Haunted Mansion).
Originally Posted By imadisneygal You very well could be on your own. I don't think it would work. Sorry...
Originally Posted By karlg I'm boiling the tar, will somebody go get the feathers? On a more serious note, as others have pointed out, there are practical issues. At WDW eventhing was built on a bigger scale. Just the hub at WDW is about as far across as all of Main Street at DL. As Darkbeer has point out, a large castle would dominate everthing. The DL castle is more than just another building at DL, it is one of the main symbols of the park for the last 53 years. I'm not one for making DL a museum (I think it is long past time for Lincoln to retire), but the castle is just too much of a symbol of DL. I don't mind them pulsing the paint job on it or putting some snow on it (but hated the gold 50th treatment). I would say if they radically change the castle, they would have a riot from the long time DL fans. So it is not going to happen.
Originally Posted By ShivaThDestroyer >>will somebody go get the feathers?<< I volunteer!! I would even go so far as to guess that most guests' first thought, when they think of something that embodies DL, would think of the Castle even before Mickey Mouse. >>but hated the gold 50th treatment)<< I liked the castle's 50th treatment but wouldn't have wanted it to stay that way forever.
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster I'd much rather see a rebuilding of the Matterhorn. Make it a little more like Expedition Everest.
Originally Posted By DlandDug No tar and feathers from me. Or Herb Ryman, for that matter. Ryman, who drew the very first over all plan of Disneyland, and worked on every park through Tokyo, said from time to time that he and Walt would have liked to see higher towers on Sleeping Beauty Castle. He even suggested it could still be done. I would not want to see it changed today. But it isn't some form of heresy to suggest it could be done.
Originally Posted By lesmisfan no i do not want to see a bigger castle at disneyland. It works at the other parks well mainly because the other parks have more land and is much bigger than disneyland. I like our castle its small, and charming just like the park and the original so it better not be touched except for paint that it might need. but no extensive remodeling to make it bigger. it works for disneyland.
Originally Posted By NJ AP Donnyaz, my husband will go stand in your corner. After seeing the magnificant castles in Orlando and Paris, Anaheim seems like they got gyped. I agree with the others, though, who think a larger castle would look out of propotion. That and I don't want to be inconvenienced during construction.
Originally Posted By donnyaz it just seems a little small when you look down Main street.Next time you are there look at the castle with that in mind. Then you can lynch me all you want
Originally Posted By FerretAfros It looked even smaller before they replaced the trees in the hub shortly before the 50th. While the old ones were hardly what I would consider huge, they were a lot bigger than the ones we have now, almost entirely blocking the view of the castle, except from within the hub itself.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo One of the reasons I prefer DL park to the M in FL is it feels more toy like, including tha castle. DL's Castle is my fav, followed by DLP. WDW's and Tokyo's are too boxy and militaristic for my tastes.
Originally Posted By karlg RE #9 >>> Ryman, who drew the very first over all plan of Disneyland, and worked on every park through Tokyo, said from time to time that he and Walt would have liked to see higher towers on Sleeping Beauty Castle. He even suggested it could still be done. I would not want to see it changed today. But it isn't some form of heresy to suggest it could be done. <<< Thanks for the history, I have read a lot about Disney and don't remember that one, but I will take your word for it. Of course the come back is that they while they thought about it, they thought better of it and didn't do it . I do remember the hearing a recording of Herb talking about the "lost weekend" bird's eye view sketch that Walt wanted a big castle he drew it so big that they never could have afforded it. As others have said, at this point it would be out of proportion. Imagine the view back from the second deck of the Mark Twain with the Matterhorn behind the castle. What I would not mind them doing is putting in a dungeon with the dragon from DL Paris.
Originally Posted By karlg DL is sort of a time machine. And now the castle is part of that time machine. I like WDW and TDL castles and particularly the walk through in Tokyo. Somehow, I was a bit disappointed in the DL Paris Castle. Maybe I was expecting too much. But I did love the dragon under the castle. My guilty pleasure was that I was down there watching the dragon and it was sleeping, then it woke up and scared a little kid out of his skin . I understand it is the same Dragon in the Tokyo walk through of the castle, but you go buy it so fast you don't get to enjoy it. I like the way the dragon was done better in Paris as sort of a little surprise. I do like the Tokyo walk though adventure where I found the Paris walk through pretty weak. I got the gist of what was going on but was confused by the ending until I explained it to my brother who said "that was the Horn Kind from The Black Cauldron" (must have gone over bigger in Japan?).
Originally Posted By karlg Try "Horn KING" in that that last sentence. (we really need a Preview and Edit feature because my typing is not getting any better with age).
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I don't think that The Black Caudron is any bigger in Japan, but it was added right around the time the movie came out. It didn't really have time to show its commercial potential before they made the walk-through (unlike the several years between films and their attractions now adays). They closed the walk-through in TDL a while ago, because of the cost of running it, and many people with similar reactions (confused about the content because the movie didn't do well) to what you had. I don't remember the exact time that it closed, but I think it was around a year ago. You can check the TDL section for more details (there aren't that many threads there, so it should be pretty easy to find).
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Here's the thread: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2ry8bm" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/2ry8bm</a>
