Originally Posted By HyperTyper Again, I see, someone has passed-out on "Mission Space" over in WDW. Seems like we're getting around one person a week who doesn't survive the ride somewhere in a Disney park ... They end-up sick, passed-out, or worst of all, deceased. I've been a little annoyed at Disney's attempt to add Six Flags thrills to Disney parks lately. I'm not saying every ride should be as exciting as warm milk, but I think a lot of people are going on Mission: Space and Indiana Jones expecting simple Pirates-style thrills, not something that squeezes the blood to the back of your brain. The thrill of Disney has always been theming, effects and story. Pirates of the Caribbean has clearly been the most beloved ride ever. It has two mild waterfall drops ... plenty to get even a boatload of teenagers squealing in anticipation and glee. Thunder Mountain, Space Mountain, and Splash Mountain don't need to push your body to the limit in order to get the maximum enjoyment from guests. A quick and gentle dip, mild twist or turn, or unexpected surprise is just as exciting as having one's brain squished into one's shoes. Even when a ride is based solely on thrills, it doesn't need to be rowdy to rate high. Calfornia Screamin' is hardly intense, but people (even teens) love it because there is something to be said for the thrill of gentle, sweeping speed and graceful turns. Incidentally, isn't Soarin' the most loved, popular simulator ride in DL or WDW right now? Who, of any age or stamina, HASN'T gotten a rush and a smile on that ride? It's 100% joy. I think Disney needs to forget about pushing the physical limits of guests, and concentrate on building bigger and better shows. It's been way too long since we've had a long-length, sweeping epic ride like "Pirates." By installing rides that either cater to thrill-seeking teens (Tower of Terror, Mission Space) or the stroller set (Monsters Inc.), Disney is getting more and more removed from Walt Disney's goal of providing entertainment that entire families can enjoy together. Disneyland was never meant to be "The Scariest Place on Earth." There's no need or reason to make it so.
Originally Posted By stagemomx3 I agree, when we went on Indian Jones I was expecting something much more like Pirates or Haunted Mansion. I love Splash Mountain because there is so much "story" to the ride.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<I think a lot of people are going on Mission: Space and Indiana Jones expecting simple Pirates-style thrills>> <<we went on Indian Jones I was expecting something much more like Pirates or Haunted Mansion>> I guess no one reads or thinks about what is posted on all those warning signs.
Originally Posted By stagemomx3 "I guess no one reads or thinks about what is posted on all those warning signs." Meaning what exactly? Perhaps it's that warning signs have lost there effectiveness since everything seems to come with some sort of warning. Yes I did read the warning signs, we were already in the que and it still didn't prepare me for what exactly the ride was. Regardless I still prefer more storyline type rides to those focused just on thrills. Indian Jones is by far superior in that regard than Revenge of the Mummy at Universal or even TOT at DCA. Just as Splash Mountain is superior over Jurassic Park Ride or Grizzly River Run to me because of the bigger storyline of the ride.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>I guess no one reads or thinks about what is posted on all those warning signs<< Indeed. My mother is too old and frail to enjoy those rides, and she wisely passes on them. There is plenty for her to do when visiting either DLR or WDW.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<Perhaps it's that warning signs have lost there effectiveness since everything seems to come with some sort of warning.>> Very few of Disney's attractions have warning signs. <<Yes I did read the warning signs>> What I am driving at is if you had read them, why would you think Indy would be like PotC or HM? Neither of those rides have warning signs. On the other hand, Disney's thrill rides do. You _should_ have expected a more physical ride.
Originally Posted By cstephens stagemomx3 wrote: > Meaning what exactly? Perhaps it's that warning signs have lost there effectiveness since everything seems to come with some sort of warning. No, it's that people can't be bothered to take responsibility for their own actions. I haven't read anything about why the person on Mission Space got sick. And I don't know what the posted signs say. But I do know that because I can be sensitive to a lot of quick movement, if there's any kind of jerky effect, I don't go on something new unless I know about it, either because I can see the ride or because I've talked to someone else who's been on it. In the case of other theme parks, my husband's gone on a new ride and then come back to tell me about it, and from what he says and from him knowing what I can handle, I can make an intelligent decision about whether or not I should do the ride. When I've got friends or family members who ask about rides, I tell them as much as I can without spoiling it and find out from them what their issues might be to help them determine if they want to try it. People need to make informed decisions, and if they don't feel they're getting enough information from the signs, they need to make an effort to find out more information until they're satisfied. Disney has lots of non-thrill, non-scares, and yes, someone who doesn't like thrill rides still has plenty to do, so I'm not sure why it's necessary to sanitize the parks. Pirates is fun, but Indy is awesome too. /cs
Originally Posted By Darkbeer >>Very few of Disney's attractions have warning signs.<< When was the last time you were at Disneyland? Seems like every ride has multiple warning signs. A sign at the entrance of any moving ride, signs on each and every vehicle... Heck, they have Warning signs on every Fantasyland Dark Ride, and even the Carrousel
Originally Posted By trekkeruss "Keep hands clear" and so on is far different than the signs that tell you to not ride if you are pregnant, have medical problems, get motion sick, etc.
Originally Posted By jasmine7 <<Incidentally, isn't Soarin' the most loved, popular simulator ride in DL or WDW right now? Who, of any age or stamina, HASN'T gotten a rush and a smile on that ride? It's 100% joy.<< Um, me, for one. I was really, really looking forward to this ride when I took my mom to WDW last December, and I ended up freaking out. I could appreciate the beauty of the ride, but it scared the you-know-what out of me. I about broke my mom's hand grasping it so hard, and my eyes stayed closed through much of the ride. It was just too high and too intense for me.
Originally Posted By monorailblue ^^^ Not when they are posted everywhere the eye can see. The eyes glaze over just the same whether it says, "Supervise young children at all times" (remember when that used to be "Children under 7 must be accompanied by an adult"?), or "Guests with Neck or Back Conditions that May Be Aggravated by this Attraction Should Not Ride" or whatever they say, there are so very many that it is most natural to ignore them all. That's just human nature. And the point has, in fact, nothing at all to do with people not taking responsibility for their own experiences. It is that Disney is now creating and marketing experiences that, for lack of better words, "ain't what they used to be." E-tickets initially were mostly Show with a smattering of phsycial-element thrills. Hyper is lamenting that the mix has shifted to mostly thrills with just enough (or sometimes, just not enough) Show to support it. And the fact is, Hyper is 100% right. Pirates, Mansion, and Splash will ALWAYS be in the top of the heap because they are mostly Show dependent. A good comparison is Star Tours--it has lots of Show, but that Show has aged very poorly--and its thrills cannot carry it alone! At least, that's what I think.
Originally Posted By SleepingBeauty82 On one hand, I understand Disney wanting to add more "thrill rides" to the parks because they are trying to compete with other Southern California theme parks by offering something for thrill seekers as well as others and I think if I was a roller coaster lover AND a Disney lover I would be thrilled. I am not, however, so I don't care either way. Space Mountain is about as far as I'll go and I'm still not wild about that one. I have to say though, that I don't think a few accidents should deter them from catering to thrill seekers. I mean we'd have no Six Flags or Knott's, or MOST of the rides at the county fair if a ride came down everytime there was an incident. Although I prefer my thrills mild, far be it from me to deny a coaster-loving Disney fan their fun.
Originally Posted By Sweeper The thrill rides that are completely hidden from view seem to be part of the problem from my perspective. Many people look at Screamin' and say no way. How many people have gone on RRC because they couldn't see the thrills? Mission Space sure looks like a pavillion containing attractions like the Land, Imagination, so why would guests expect the experience to be extreme? Sometimes people just don't understand unless they can see it. And Mission Space may suffer from one other problem. People ask if it is a roller coaster and when the answer is "No" they think it can't be that extreme. TOT wisely has the doors that open so guests below can see the insanity to come. Many people look up and say, "No thanks." Test Track shows off the fast part to guests as well. Splash shows the biggest hill. Of course Space Mountain used to have a preview from the PM but at least people know it is a roller coaster and that is enough information for many to choose not to ride.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Guests waiting to ride 'mission: space' are practically clubbed over the head with repeated and numerous warnings in several languages, graphics, diagrams, and video. There's no way someone could say they "didn't know" the nature of the ride ahead of time. Guests are also provided with an option of 'mild' or 'wild' prior to boarding. At some point, personal responsibility has to come into play. As with all entertainment choices, Not EVERY attraction should be suitable for all people - what a dull world that would be.
Originally Posted By cstephens monorailblue wrote: > there are so very many that it is most natural to ignore them all. That's just human nature. I see signs driving every day - STOP, No Right Turn, Yield. Does that mean I've learned to ignore them? Ummm, no. And I could see ignoring signs on rides that you've been on. But if it's a ride you've never been on, then I think it's pretty stupid not to pay attention to what kind of ride it might be unless you're the type where *nothing* bothers you so it doesn't matter. /cs
Originally Posted By Disney Joy If there is one ride that keeps killing people - then I think Disney should really take a close look at the ride. I know there a tamer side, BUT maybe it's time for Mission Space to go or be totally revamped. AND there are signs everywhere.....I know after Space Mountain last year I had to go to the room and rest for 2 hours, and YES I read the signs.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb >>>Not when they are posted everywhere the eye can see. The eyes glaze over...<<< The warning signs are ubiquitous, yes. But a good rule of thumb in deciding if a ride will be on par with a Pirates or HM is the hight requirement. If you can't take your little kids it probably won't be a gentle boat ride.
Originally Posted By SleepingBeauty82 I always looked at the people in the vehicles getting off the ride. If there are little kids or old people on it...I figure I'll be ok.
Originally Posted By dr jones If a posted sign is not enough, you could always ask a CM working the ride what it's like, telling them you have a low tolerance for jerky movements, high speed etc. Or ask someone exiting the ride. Or if that's still not enough, you could sue McDonald's because you just got burned by the HOT COFFEE you just purchased, and brilliantly stuck between your legs.
