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Originally Posted By bayrr326 Is this the only thing WDW execs know how to do, more upcharge events? I can understand a Halloween one but a Christmas one that I don't buy. I think the Pirate and Princess party shows you can only do so many upcharge events. I sometimes wonder how much money they could have made if they made the Pirate and Princess stuff(parade, fireworks, entertainment) something you could only experience on weekends or some other times and how packed the park would be if they did that. The problem with an upcharge event at DHS is that it simply doesn't have the rides or capacity that MK has to make it worthwhile for an upcharge event.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I hope this is so untrue. I am tired of upcharge event this and that. Just open the parks later and up the ticket fees.
Originally Posted By X-san I really hate the whole hard ticket event concept. Somehow they don't need it in Tokyo (or almost never, anyway), why is it so vital in Florida? Do the other Disney resorts do so much of that? It seems like a cheap idea, to kick some customers out early and invite others in for a "special event" at, of course, a "special price". Really cheap of them, I think.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo DLP does it one night a year. Halloween night the park closes at 8 and reopens for the party at 9. There are private parties in the off season for corporate affairs (just like DL).
Originally Posted By ni_teach "Disney's Hollywood Studios is making plans to better go after the teen market." All I can say is: "That trick never works"
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 X, Disney does it in Florida because it can. It's sickening really. But they wouldn't get away with it in Anaheim, Paris or Tokyo. What bothers me is just how in your face they are about these events and how now (Princess and Pirates) they're creating events that have no reason for being other than to gouge guests and encourage more crap merchandise to be sold. These PP Parties (no jokes, please) have been a failure but Erin Wallace and Phil Holmes refuse to let them go come hell or hurricanes. And the Christmas Parties are pure extortion for guests who arrive at WDW for a week in late November or mid-december and expect to see a Christmas Parade or Holiday Wishes. Uh-uh. Not unless you cough up another $50. Forget the fact these things were offered as part of MK entertainment from 1971 to the start of this decade. Nope. Now you pay one way or the other. Either an extra $50 before Christmas week or the most expensive prices of the year for hotels and now with surcharges, food as well. Magical holiday gift. Even a great event that I support ... MNSSHP's have become too much. An event that used to be offered 4 nights is now a 20-night marathon with the parties beginning Sept. 5th this year. As a matter of fact on 9/5/08 WDW will mark a milestone that shouldn't make anyone but an exec smile -- for the first time ever TWO parks will close early on the same night for hard-ticket parties as the Night of Joy Christian Music and Debauchery Fest moves to the Studios park. Why? Because this is WDW and they can get away with it.
Originally Posted By leemac <<DLP does it one night a year.>> Looks like that will change - a version of Not So Scary is likely to be coming to DLP this October. <<Somehow they don't need it in Tokyo (or almost never, anyway), why is it so vital in Florida?>> You'd probably be surprised how many TDR has, X. Nowhere near the number that WDW has but it is a decent number - the JCB parties are the most popular.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo OMG no way. I cannot believe DLP is going to do this. Just offer it to everyone, up the hours and entertainment to everyone, and smooth it out over the year's revenue on admission media.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Looks like that will change - a version of Not So Scary is likely to be coming to DLP this October.>> Looks like a going-away present from the Florida exec who was recently replaced as Prez. Florida is the model they want to build all their resorts around to the extent it is possible. But you know this ...
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORGOCH: Well, if'n they keeps this up, there ain't gonna' be nothin' special 'bout a Dizzy theme park after dark!! I know Uncle Walt used ta say it was his fav'rite time at the park. Them greedy jerks in managment went an' made it so now it can only be THEIR fav'rite time fer the parks!! ORDDU: Yes, Disney Management has SO much in common with the Oil Companies of America. Until more guests catch on, though, and stop coming, Management will continue to get by with all this immoral price gouging.
Originally Posted By X-san ***You'd probably be surprised how many TDR has, X. Nowhere near the number that WDW has but it is a decent number - the JCB parties are the most popular.*** Well, I know about the JCB parties, I performed in one actually. But they close the whole park early for that stuff (in general), or just parts of it?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros So does this mean that they are going to be holding off on the Night Kingdom? It sounds like they might be trying to test the waters a bit, and I would expect them to find that people aren't that interested...especially at the Studios, where you can easily do everything in one day without the extra time.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Very hard to get info on Night Kingdom, but I believe that it's a done deal. It will be built ... despite all those godawful survey results. Jay wants it ... bad.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Very hard to get info on Night Kingdom, but I believe that it's a done deal. It will be built ... despite all those godawful survey results. Jay wants it ... bad.<< You willing to make a wager on that? I am not too sure Disney is going to go forth with this project with the economy the way it is.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 The economy is fine.<< I am hoping it continues to be fine and the housing market continues to plummit in So. Cal, just waiting on the bottom to hit for me to purchase a house at this point. So keep the ecoomy chugging along and I'll get a steal of a deal in So. Cal when all is said and done.
Originally Posted By X-san I never said the housing market is fine. It's not. It's also not a significantly large portion of our economy, believe it or not. So, be careful to not equate one with the other.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 I never said the housing market is fine. It's not. It's also not a significantly large portion of our economy, believe it or not. So, be careful to not equate one with the other. << But the out of control gas prices, rising food costs coupled with the housing market is. When someone is spending 30 to 49% more on necesities now than they were 2 or 3 years ago, it starts affecting the vacation budget at some point. WDW is a bit immune to it because they do get more overseas visitors who love the fact they can get a cheap American vacation, but you will see more and more Americans skip vacation plans or tone them down in the near future.
