Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub <a href="http://thedisneyblog.com/2010/04/15/queue-less-disney-parks/" target="_blank">http://thedisneyblog.com/2010/...y-parks/</a>
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Hey, I'm all for making the waiting time less painful. Anything to make it better would be a big bonus. Especially for people who can't stand for long periods of time or for people with young kids that have trouble containing them for long periods of time. It sounds great to me. And I'm excited to see how this whole 1.1 billion next-generation project will play out, and what it will entail.
Originally Posted By tashajilek I dont think this would work out to well. I wouldnt like to be trapped in a room and HAVE to stay there, i would rather be outside in the fresh air. Second where in Disneyland would these big rooms fit?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros It makes me think of the DMV. Take your number and wait your turn. While it can be annoying to wait in a 2 hour long queue, at least you're getting feedback from it, as you keep moving along. If you're just sitting there waiting (because you know there won't be enough interactive stations for everybody on the busy days), it will get old, fast. I would rather spend my day in the parks waiting in a line that keeps moving than just sitting there and waiting for my number to be called. I also think they'll have a tough time coming up with any sort of decent atmosphere in those ares, since constant announcements of the next group to go and the video games scattered about seem like they will ruin any ammount of charm.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance But at least you'd get to sit down and could maybe be in air conditioning!
Originally Posted By tashajilek "the video games scattered about seem like they will ruin any ammount of charm." Can you imagine being forced to stay in a room full of video games and probably loud kids? Ugh.Plus having a big ugly box looking room infront of the line will look lovely. The line up is part of the ride its adds suspence and gets you excited for the ride. theres nothing that goes together better then playing mariokart then walking into Indian Jones.
Originally Posted By tashajilek But at least you'd get to sit down and could maybe be in air conditioning! Some seating along the line wouldnt be a bad idea.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub I think Disney should first attempt running the attractions at full capacity. It is very irritating to have a long line in Autopia for example when they are only utilizing half the lanes! Also try augmenting a true FP time-frame with a one hour allowance byond the return time window instead of allowing a.m. FP's being used at closing time. Those in the know have taken advantage of this trick for way to long including myself. The standby wait lines have gotten real bad as in serious long waits. Seriosly 2or3 hour waits?Sounds really painful
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "the video games scattered about seem like they will ruin any ammount of charm." Nothing is more charmless than long queues winding around and in front of an attraction. I'm imagining these games aren't just regular off the shelf games but ride related like the new interactive games in the queue for WDW's Space Mountain. In any case, anything that Disney can do to make waiting more entertaining and not regulated to standing in a seemingly endless line sounds good to me.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Seriosly 2or3 hour waits?Sounds really painful" Anyone enter a line that had an estimated wait of 2-3 hours needs to have their head examined.
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle This sounds a lot more appealing to me than standing in a line being jostled by kids behind you. Plus if I stand still for too long without moving my back starts to hurt, so games aside, the idea of being able to sit down while I wait works for me!
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub I agree with you Hans but believe me I saw it many times at WDW during Easter Week. I would never stand in a line like that because I go often to DL & WDW. But the family that really needs to see Soaring or SPACE Mnt makes the choice to wait and watch as the FPers stream thru the lines. And that is why allowing people to abuse the return window ruins the FP concept.
Originally Posted By tashajilek "a true FP time-frame with a one hour allowance byond the return time window instead of allowing a.m. FP's being used at closing time. Those in the know have taken advantage of this trick for way to long including myself." I didnt even think of that. Yea i also do the fast pass trick. It just seems the new queue could be more of a hassle then anything. "Seriosly 2or3 hour waits?Sounds really painful" the only ride i will wait over an hour for is TSMM only because there is no way around it. No ride is worth 2 hrs of your life.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub I think the parks are discovering crowd capacity is growing faster than new attractions can be built. They keep adding new hotels. I don't like the Q-less idea either but feel it is inevitable since Disney wants everything to be computer generated. But in the meantime Disney please operate rides at full capacity until waiting until the line is officially long. And be more restrictive with FP. FP is failing because nobody follows the guidelines. I also like the comment in the link from the family that knows how to enjoy & entertain themselves in long lines. Once upon a time Peter Pan ,for instance., played the theme song as you waited in line. You could enjoy the recognized melody or sing along or challenge people to know the words. You can get to know the people in front or back of you in line also. Or entertain yourself by listening to various lanquages being spoken and various stories being told. Pweoplewatch...Also I wonder about the price increasing for admission as more advanced technical concepts have to be created.
Originally Posted By tashajilek Disney should operate at full capacity but if i were making $6 an hour would i be sweating to make sure more people could ride per hour? umm probably not. I am a believer that if you hire good people and pay the good people what they deserve it makes for a better business. Im not implying there arent good people at Disney because there are many, but a well paid employee would be willing to do a better job.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance When it's 90 degrees outside, the sun is beating down on you, you've been standing all day and your feet are killing you, you have 2 hot, cranky kids and one grown up husband whining and complaining about the wait, this idea sounds like complete and utter utopia, I don't care what the atmosphere is, you can sit me in a cardboard box, as long as I can sit down and it's not HOT and I don't have to worry about my 2 year old running under the bars, COUNT ME IN! This takes the worse thing about Disney and eliminates it! Not to mention, I end up leaving Disneyland everytime looking like a cooked crab because I'm extremely sensitive to the sun and no matter how much sunblock I use on my face it still burns right through, anything to get out of that dang sun!
Originally Posted By mousermerf <<<Anyone enter a line that had an estimated wait of 2-3 hours needs to have their head examined.>>> I tend to avoid them unless it's peak and I'm with a first-timer and we've got FP's for something else and nothing ebtter to do - or, other scenario, previews and openings. For previews and openings, I've committed to the idea of waiting, so I'm prepared with water and snacks and possibly my Nintendo DS. Also, going for NYE and then doing theater-style attractions that usually aren't at 1000% are lots of fun, but the wait for those is usually less then an hour. I've mentioned this story before I think, but Nemo at Epcot broke down at park opening during the first AP preview day. The first group, who took up the exterior queue, was allowed to sit around and wait - not told to go away and check back later like they typically do. They held everyone outside the building. The line started to get longer.. all the way back to the breezeway. To the point where CM's were struggling to keep non-AP's out of the line. Park management wandered by, figured out the situation, and noted the early-arriving APs camped out on the ground, and got the go-ahead to open the interior queue (typically they wont if a ride is down, safety, etc..) That was like 10:30 or 11am, after a 9am park opening and shut down. So the filled up the entire interior queue. Made little camps on the floor, and waited. I think they got it running around noon. The line was still outside in the switchbacks a little and listed at like 30-40mins when I left the building.
Originally Posted By BrianStarr Hahaha I love FerretAfros comment about how it's like waiting at the DMV... The future of Disney attraction queues: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz3bDON9bNo&feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...=related</a>