Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 I was just reading Al's new update and he made mention of APers having to pay full price if they want to see WoC over the blockout days of summer. In context it actually said, "Once the summer blockout dates end in late August, September and October are also pegged with extremely busy nights for World of Color since TDA knows that it will be simply impossible for all one million Annual Passholders to have seen the show this summer, even if they all pay for blockout tickets." For some reason this just took me back to the pre-DCA opening hype and how there was worry people would have to be shunted over to the booby-prize DL because DCA would be regularly full. Now this made me wonder, just how many APers here will actually pay the full day price and go to DCA for WoC? Or is this hyperbole again? Will DCA FINALLY be a place people actually pay money for without buying an AP or using a two-fer? Has our ugly little redhead FINALLY grown up into a beautiful swan?
Originally Posted By trekkeruss For me it's not a question of paying full price, it's is DCA a full day park? Would I visit DCA without stepping foot in DL park on the same day? IMO it's still not quite there. If I only had one day, I'd buy a one day hopper pass. I would not buy a one day pass and use it on DCA. Once the Little Mermaid and Cars Land is open, then I'll say it can completely stand on its own.
Originally Posted By mousermerf Would I buy a one day ticket for DCA? Nope. Would I buy a one day ticket for MGM/DHS? Oh hell no. Would I buy a one day ticket for AK, MK or DL? Hmm.. maybe, if I hadn't been before or they add something new. Would I buy a one day ticket for Epcot? If I didn't own an AP, probably. Would I buy a blackout ticket? Ha, no. Those are a complete ripoff. Just get the higher AP and stop paying extortionate rates for parking too.
Originally Posted By ni_teach I don't think that many would pay, but even if 10% were to pay that is still a large number.
Originally Posted By mousermerf 10% of DCA's fully paid population? Isn't that like 10 people...? I love easy math like that.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "For me it's not a question of paying full price, it's is DCA a full day park? Would I visit DCA without stepping foot in DL park on the same day? IMO it's still not quite there." I've actually traveled to Southern California and done that on two separate occasions. I'm not so tied to DL that I can't visit DCA and enjoy the place independent of DL. To each his own I guess. In regard to the original question I suppose that IF this story is true Disney would simply be taking precautions because if they don't plan for a significant rush on the parks all hell would break loose online and in the news media about how Disney "should have known better" and how they "should have planned for the worst". More to the point, I think that there will be some die-hards who will pay full price. I suspect though that most pass holders are so unaccustomed to paying at the gate to get into either park at the posted price that it will be like pulling teeth for them to shell out the 75 bucks it costs to walk through the turnstiles.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Okay, I just read Al's article. The scenario he paints sounds horrible. Why are they closing the park at 10pm even on nights when there are 12am showings of WoC?? That makes no sense to me. God, I hope he's wrong about this, because if he's not it sounds like a recipe for disaster.
Originally Posted By mousermerf That would be weird, but they do have showing of Fantasmic after the park closes at DHS. Like an hour after.
Originally Posted By believe How much you want to bet the stores will stay open for an extra hour? "For your shopping convenience".
Originally Posted By mousermerf DHS unloads Fantasmic via a direct shortcut to the parking lot and also back through the park out the main entrance. Something like a 50-50 or 25-75 split depending on the crowds. I don't recall exactly, but i think the shops by the main entrance stay open - the ones back by the theater itself all close. When Epcot has its nightly Illuminations exodus Mousegear is the only thing still open - and strangely enough due to its size it works.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Is it just me, or does it seem like a really stupid idea to basically shut down a 3rd of the park just for one show? Al is saying that PP will close at 8pm?! It doesn't even get dark in Anaheim during the summer until almost 9. I just don't understand why everything but Fun Wheel has to close. Maybe I'm missing something, but for me this whole thing sounds like it's going to be more trouble than it's worth.
Originally Posted By mousermerf That's the result of building big, open, and relatively unthemed carnival attractions.
Originally Posted By believe Agreed, hope Al's wrong about shutting down the rides. I don't think they make that much noise and they can still turn down the lights.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <I suspect though that most pass holders are so unaccustomed to paying at the gate to get into either park at the posted price that it will be like pulling teeth for them to shell out the 75 bucks it costs to walk through the turnstiles.> But they wouldn't have to pay that much, would they? If they have AP's, wouldn't they just pay the blackout fee to attend on a blackout day, which is what - 40 bucks?
Originally Posted By mousermerf 40 is over halfway to a one day ticket - add parking and it's a total ripoff.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 If I had an AP, I'd wait till my dates were open too, but I can see people going for it, if a). they just can't wait to see the show for whatever reason (why did people wait in line 8 hours to buy an iphone on day one, rather than stroll in without a line on day two? You got me...) or b). they have guests in from out of town who want to see it during the blacked out days of summer, or whatever. I don't think I'd do it, but I bet they get some people paying it.
Originally Posted By mousermerf With how nice DL is on blackout days I've ben there for the first/last day of a given event, i suspect there wont be that many.
