Madonna vs. THE DIVA -- for World Supremacy!

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    Originally Posted By Inspector 57

    Well, okay, okay, maybe not quite for World Supremacy. It's for a place in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. But STILL...

    How could they DO this?! Make Donna compete against Madge?! TDLFAN's head must be exploding!


    The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 2007/08 Nominees are:

    Afrika Bambaataa
    Beastie Boys
    Chic
    Leonard Cohen
    Dave Clark Five
    Madonna
    John Mellencamp
    Donna Summer
    The Ventures

    Of those nine nominees, the top FIVE vote-getters will be inducted.

    Who do you think SHOULD win?

    Who do you think WILL win?
     
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    Originally Posted By Lisann22

    Tough choices:

    I'd like to see Afrika Bambaataa go in as he is the Godfather of Rap/Hip Hop in a positive way. Rock Rock Planet Rock, but he did so much more way before that.

    Madonna and Donna Summers both deserve it as does John Mellencamp.

    I LOVE the Beastie Boys. They have been so inventive and have some of the most hysterical rap out there ever.

    I know I'll be a minority but snooze on the Dave Clark Five. Whatever. I'm not a fan of the English Invasion.

    So I want Afrika, Madonna, Donna, John M and the Beastie Boys.

    It'll probably be Leonard Cohen, Dave Clark Five, Madonna, John Cougar and I believe even Donna.
     
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    Originally Posted By jdub

    Nobody but the Beasties even BEGIN to qualify.
     
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    Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF

    Dave Clark Five and John Mellencamp get my top votes for this.

    Not into the divas, so...eh.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    John M. is the only "slam dunk" to me.

    I'm second to none in my admiration of Leonard Cohen as a songwriter, but he's not exactly rock and roll. Still, he'd be my second choice out of this bunch, simply because he's brilliant.

    Afrika gets a yes from me for Lisann's reasons.

    I appreciate what Chic did to bring more interesting poly-rhythms to the world of dance music, transitioning it from the by-then dull as dishwater 4-on-the-floor disco, but I don't know that their body of work qualifies for Hall status either. Rogers is a genius producer, but Chic as a group?

    Not a fan of either diva, but you can't deny the sales.

    My guess is that the two divas, John M., Cohen, and Afrika get in.

    If I were a voter, I'd vote for John, Afrika, possibly Cohen - and then wish there were more choices this year!
     
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    Originally Posted By peeaanuut

    Cohen would get my vote for sure as well as Bambaataa. I have a feeling the The B Boys will get in though.
     
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    Originally Posted By MissCandice

    I would hope the B Boys would get in because they are awesome. I love me some Leonard Cohen too. The Ventures have sentimental value for me since my dad loved them. I would be surprised if Madonna was admitted now, although she has been on the scene for over 20 years at this point. So I would like Beastie Boys, Cohen, The Ventures, Madonna, and Mellancamp.
     
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    Originally Posted By TDLFAN

    Beastie Boys? I thought you had to be able to sing to be concidered for a nomination here...

    Anyways... Thanks for posting on this Inspector57, and to reward you, here is a little tune from DONNA's biggest fan ever!

    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/fzkny" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/user/fz
    kny</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By wonderingalice

    My guess is the bottom five will get in this time - a couple of them due to the number of years that have passed (DCF and The Ventures):

    Dave Clark Five
    Madonna
    John Mellencamp
    Donna Summer
    The Ventures

    Of all of the nominees, the only one I go out on a limb for and say is a shoe-in is Madonna.
     
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    Originally Posted By TDLFAN

    From your mouth to God's ears...
     
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    Originally Posted By wonderingalice

    Yeppers... :)
     
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    Originally Posted By Inspector 57

    My PERSONAL votes:

    Afrika Bambaataa: YES. For the reasons Lisa stated. A major influence on a new type of music.

    Beastie Boys: YES. Clever and fresh -- and they've developed as a group as they've aged. They'll be around for a long time. And as above... a major influence on a new type of music.

    Chic: God, NO. Nile Rogers deserves an Award for the body of work he's produced, which INCLUDES Chic. But while Chic had a great new sound, ever Chic song had that SAME sound. And disposable lyrics. Blech.

    (BTW, am I the only one who loved what Rogers did with/to/for Bowie?)

    Leonard Cohen: NO. Great lyricist. Not a rocker.

    Dave Clark Five: NO. I'm taking personal artistic perrogative here. Just don't have use for them.

    Madonna: YES! Her early work was SO lightweight. But she used her popularity as a feminist force. And she became the absolute model for using the new "video" medium. Further, she led the way into the 80's-and-beyond paradigm of "overall entertainer as celeb," vs. "singer as celeb." AND she's developed as an artist as the years have passed. She's pushed the envelope. She's modeled -- and fought for -- the acceptance of diversity. She still writes the same crappy lyrics. But she takes risks. She entertains. She challenges. She embodies the "rock'n'roll" spirit.

    John Mellencamp: Hell, YES!!! Absolutely.

    Donna Summer: Surprisingly, this is a hard one for me. I think she deserves a place in the Rock And Roll Hall of Fame. Not that she's a Rocker. I'm glad (for the wrong reasons) she got the Rock Grammy for "Hot Stuff" -- but I don't buy it for a second. "Hot Stuff" was not rock. And neither is she.

    IMHO, she's nominated because she REPRESENTS an important era in popular music. This is sort of the Hall of Fame's nod to the legitimacy of disco. But I don't think that's a good reason to give her an award. Donna was/is a WONDERFUL vocalist, and she wrote much of her popular stuff, but... the disco music for which she's most known was mostly the work of the producers. It seems almost more fair that they give an Award to the Casablanca crew.

    But if they mean this in a more all-encompassing way... Donna is an amazing talent. So MUCH of the stuff she's done since she was the Disco Queen is SO much more impressive than most of the disco stuff, IMHO. She's been nominated before. I'd like her to win this year and for it to be a nod to her LIFETIME contributions, not just to "Love To Love You" and "Hot Stuff."

    The Ventures: UMMMMMM... We need a surf group in the HOF. But don't we already have one? Were the Ventures influential? or just popular? I honestly don't know.

    So I, myself, personally, as an individual, would vote for:

    Afrika Bambaataa; Beastie Boys; John (Cougar) Mellencamp; Madonna; Donna Summer.

    I think the Awards will go to:

    Afrika Bambaataa; John Mellencamp; Madonna; Donna Summer; Ventures.
     
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    Originally Posted By TDLFAN

    >>Donna Summer: Surprisingly, this is a hard one for me. I think she deserves a place in the Rock And Roll Hall of Fame. Not that she's a Rocker. I'm glad (for the wrong reasons) she got the Rock Grammy for "Hot Stuff" -- but I don't buy it for a second. "Hot Stuff" was not rock. And neither is she.<<

    Thank God for that! Still... "Cold Love" anyone?

    Or how about a little Gospel? DONNA got two of those gospel Grammys...you know?

    But I agree that is represents the Disco era...and for that, she will always be "branded". But you know as well as I do that DONNA can take on almost any musical style and nail it.
     
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    Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF

    ^^^
    Even bluegrass?
     
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    Originally Posted By wonderingalice

    ^^*LMAO*
     
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    Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF

    ^^^
    I think I'd shoot myself if that ever came to pass.
     
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    Originally Posted By wonderingalice

    I can see it now...

    "Awww, c'mon ya'll! This gal Donna, she's real purty!Let's give'r a go and see what she kin do!"

    -Hee Haw 2008
     
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    Originally Posted By TDLFAN

    >>Even bluegrass?<<

    If by bluegrass you mean..."country". Then the answer is YES. DONNA, who lives in Nashville TN, has been known to sing some of country's most notable hits live... like "Stand By your Man" and back in the day, she did a country medley with Eddie Rabbit on the Grammy's.. Plus, she has written at least one conutry song for Reba McEntire...which she has also performed live in concert, and I have that audio in my hard drive for you to enjoy.

    So you can kill yourself now BlueDevil.
     
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    Originally Posted By TDLFAN

    But, kill yourself after looking (and listening) to this!

    <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=9h6DiQgTQsI" target="_blank">http://youtube.com/watch?v=9h6
    DiQgTQsI</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By TDLFAN

    or THIS!

    <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=UoauuH4ohYk" target="_blank">http://youtube.com/watch?v=Uoa
    uuH4ohYk</a>
     

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