Originally Posted By dshyates I like the look of The Little Mermaid. <a href="http://www.originald.com/" target="_blank">http://www.originald.com/</a>
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Wow, thanks for the link Dshyates! They had those same pictures up at Miceage, but they wouldnt load for me for some reason. TLM building looks cool and love how they have incorporated the Palace of Fine Arts into the rest of the design. The Ferris wheel, swing ride and even MM all look fine, but if they rid of all these tomorrow, I wouldnt blink. But man, I have to admit, this is all looking very exciting though. When they add Carsland and change the entrance, DCA will start to feel and look like a complete theme park finally.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt A couple of things: What is "El Camino Real"? I noticed that label in the middle of the DCA map in the first image. As much as I detest the character overlays that Disney keeps thrusting on us I have to admit that I love the vintage Mickey themed stuff at Paradise Pier. The Silly Symphony Swings is a brilliant idea. There seems to be two different designs shown for the exterior to the Little Mermaid attraction. I'm confused as to which one will be the actual facade.
Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains El Camino Real runs most of the length of California. Here is a link to the history of the road. <a href="http://www.cahighways.org/elcamino.html" target="_blank">http://www.cahighways.org/elcamino.html</a>
Originally Posted By ArchtMig "El Camino Real" translates to "The King's Highway". It's route is essentially unchanged since the earliest footpath that went from mission to mission, only now, most of the length of it is multi lane freeways. Those bell shaped markers on the side of the road mark the path of El Camino Real.
Originally Posted By ArchtMig >>>As much as I detest the character overlays that Disney keeps thrusting on us I have to admit that I love the vintage Mickey themed stuff at Paradise Pier. The Silly Symphony Swings is a brilliant idea.<<< See Hans, that's what I've been saying all along! Yes, maybe they are using the characterization of attractions as a crutch, but in the end, good ideas, and quality execution, regardless of whether they are cartoon based or not, usually will make for something worthwhile and good. >>>There seems to be two different designs shown for the exterior to the Little Mermaid attraction. I'm confused as to which one will be the actual facade.<<< I was wondering the same thing. What's that sepia-toned version in the lower left hand corner?
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I suspect it is the new name for the performance corridor. The Little Mermaid Building looks lovely, very much like the Pan Pacific Exhibition in San Francisco, so fitting to add to the Rotunda. But the PP offerings look like lipstick on a pig. The concept art makes the Wheel look worse in my estimation. Here in europe, a lot of the fun fairs have illegal disney representations on the waveswingers, so it looks even more like a cheap funfair, and Mulholland Madness does not look great either. I am looking forward to the Carsland and Entrance artwork though. Those are the only two parts of the refurb that interest me.
Originally Posted By dshyates What happened to the cool victorian gazeboos at each end of the Sun/Mickey Wheel?
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "El Camino Real runs most of the length of California." Yes, but what what does it relate to in DCA? Is this part of some "back story" that I didn't know about, or perhaps some new element that is part of the upgrades? "See Hans, that's what I've been saying all along! Yes, maybe they are using the characterization of attractions as a crutch, but in the end, good ideas, and quality execution, regardless of whether they are cartoon based or not, usually will make for something worthwhile and good." Rarely. My biggest complaint is that they keep sticking these things in places where they do not belong. Nemo in Tomorrowland is the perfect example. In the case of PP the vintage Disney characters fit nicely in a "Disneyfied" version of an old fashioned pleasure pier.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros If you look carefully at the aerial map, it looks like they are leaving a bit of space around the edges for future expansion after this is all done. It seems that Paradise Pier will remain about the same size, while eliminating the need for the really wide road that currently runs behind it from the parking lot. It also looks like Carsland (gross name) has been scaled back in size from what was originally announced. There does not appear to be nearly as much of the ride taking place outside (may be a good thing), and it looks like only one other attraction in the land. While I'm sure it will still be nice, it does seem less grand and impressive than what was originally announced. It does give me hope, however, that they are leaving about the same ammount of space that Carsland takes up empty right next to it, meaning we will probably get another land eventually (though I don't have any idea how you will access it). Another thing that appears to have changed is the parade route will be longer than we thought. It looks like the parades will now begin just behind the Carthay Circle, approximately where they currently leave the Sunshine Plaza and enter the Golden State. That way, there is still plenty of space to view the parade, and it doesn't require blocking the main path to the Cars area. I've always thought that the Sunshine Plaza was one of the worst places to watch a parade (depending on your spot, you see the floats about 7 minutes before they pass by), so I'm really happy with the compromise they've come up with. I do kind of wonder what the black circles mean, along with the dashed line leading into Carsland...
Originally Posted By dennis-in-ct thanks for posting this new artwork. The only other artwork I have seen was this: <a href="http://www.micechat.com/forums/2250062-post151.html" target="_blank">http://www.micechat.com/forums...151.html</a>
Originally Posted By FerretAfros After comparing the drawings to the model of Carsland, it looks like it's the same general layout, just with a couple more sections inside the rockwork (and potentially a lot of the ride taking place 'underground' while at 'ground' level of the pathways outside). It also looks like they are still planning on the Flying Saucer return, since that appears to be the light grey oval to the left of the Racers, and it appears to have more rockwork surrounding it. It looks like they might be splitting the land into two different parts (the one with the darker background around the Racers and tire rides, and the lighter background with open space and a large show building-drive in restuarant?). Hopefully that is just something about the way the areas will look, not different phases of the construciton. If they ever want to introduce everybody to the 'new' DCA, they should at least have it finished, and not release it in tiny stages. They will never escape the stigma of being the 'other' park that way, IMO.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >> >>>There seems to be two different designs shown for the exterior to the Little Mermaid attraction. I'm confused as to which one will be the actual facade.<<< I was wondering the same thing. What's that sepia-toned version in the lower left hand corner?<< The lower left corner looks a lot like a redress of Soarin' Over California to me. I do like the beaux arts approach they are using for these buildings. It has a degree of fantasy, yet is grounded in real architectural history.
Originally Posted By ArchtMig >>>The lower left corner looks a lot like a redress of Soarin' Over California to me.<<< Maybe. Could be. But that style wouldn't fit with the rumored re-theming of Condor Flats to an extension of the woodsy wilderness-ey Golden State. But then again, neither does the GC Hotel, so at least there is precedent for sticking stuff in there that doesn't exactly fit thematically.
Originally Posted By lesmisfan the new concept art looks great! especailly the swings. the new theme looks great on paper. hopefully it will translate well in real life. and the little mermaid building is so beautiful!
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>>>>>>> >> >>>There seems to be two different designs shown for the exterior to the Little Mermaid attraction. I'm confused as to which one will be the actual facade.<<< I was wondering the same thing. What's that sepia-toned version in the lower left hand corner?<< The lower left corner looks a lot like a redress of Soarin' Over California to me. <<<<<<<<<< That sounds more reasonable .. given the dimensions of that sepia-tone building. For a minute .. It looks like it could have been an earlier concept for Little Mermaid .. while the one above looks more "finalized". But I do agree it looks more like a redress of Soarin' .. and it was just misplaced with the artwork for "Mermaid". The Mermaid building looks really beautiful! I really hope the real thing comes off as magical as the artwork shows. My only disappointment is keeping Mulholland Madness. I want to see that thing leveled!
Originally Posted By oc_dean Original source of the photos .. go here: <a href="http://micechat.com/forums/3145284-post1.html" target="_blank">http://micechat.com/forums/314...st1.html</a> Travel 3/4s of the way down where the actual photos are. They're a little clearer, brighter, and larger.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I think that's probably just an earlier concept for the Mermaid building. If you look closely, you can see the dome off to the right, which probably says that it's for that location. It kind of reminds me of the big buffet restuarant in the American Harbor part of TDS. It's in the background of the 4th photo on this page http://www.mouseplanet.com/tokyo/tdstour/tdstour29.htm
Originally Posted By jmuboy How can you guys make out all this detail in the ground plan that was on the "Original D" site? I can't - I must be going blind!!! LOL.
