Originally Posted By Mr X Okay people, what's up with this recent trend of naming (or renaming) the crappiest underwhelming parks that fall FAR below the quality line that Walt himself established during his lifetime? Now we're gonna get "Walt Disney's California" (alternate could be Walt Disney's Pixar Adventure, I suppose)..after the horrible "Walt Disney Studios Paris". What's up with that? It also leads to massive online confusion too! Now we're gonna have to say WDC sucks (Walt Disney's California I mean, not the Walt Disney Company), or WDC sucks (not the Walt Disney Company, Walt Disney's California)...depending on which acronym would happen to apply at the time. On the other hand, you can say "WDC sucks" meaning both, killing two birds with one stone. Anyway, it's time they got started on all the signage and artwork to rename our newest crapfest "Walt Disney Land Hong Kong", since that IS the next logical step.
Originally Posted By Westsider Lets just cut out the middle man and bring this to its natural conclusion... Everyhing sucks. Everything. Nothing is good. Nothing is entertaining. Nothing is fun. Everything sucks. Everything.
Originally Posted By Westsider Doesn't count. That's OLC, not Burbank. Everything Disney does sucks. Everything.
Originally Posted By jonvn Everything does not suck. Maybe you should try using a crtical eye, form your own opinions, and not just ape what some other person tells you is good or not.
Originally Posted By Mr X I gather Westsiders' mission was one of discrediting my opinions through sarcasm. He ran the same campaign through several threads. Critical eye be damned.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney <<Everything does not suck. Maybe you should try using a crtical eye, form your own opinions, and not just ape what some other person tells you is good or not.>> LOL, I think what Westsider was doing is something we call sarcasm ;D.
Originally Posted By jonvn I had no idea. I'm never sarcastic. The thing is that people are just jumping up and down over this announcement, and I really don't see why. The only good is the entrance changes, that looks like it might be ok. Bean says there will be more. I hope it's better than this. Because I guarantee you, if the Little Mermaid ride is going to be another dark ride like Monsters (which is very well done for what it is), and even if it is very well done, inside of six months, it'll be a walk on. These things are just nothing special. The cars stuff is just really kind of ok. I suppose. I don't care for the movie that much, and I am tired of cartoons. It is utterly weak to keep doing this. The entrance sounds good. But people seem happy. It's a shame that most of the "fans" of this stuff don't even know why they like what they do.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney ^^You ever see Eddie Murphy movie, 'RAW'? Well, this is a family site, so I'll keep it as G-rated as possible, but basically Eddie talks about what's it like to wait for a 'date' with a girl and you wait and wait and wait and then FINALLY she gives in and you guys goes out! It seems like its the greatest thing in the world because you waited SO long for it, even though it might be mediocre when you think about too long. He then makes another anaology about starving and not eating for 6 months and how your insides are just shrievling up....until somebody throws you a cracker!!! And you know what, its the BEST damn cracker you ever tasted lol. You had to wait six months for it, just like you had to wait forever to meet that girl, but once you do, its HEAVEN lol. Well for Disney fans, the DCA updates is now our cracker . We waited soooo long to eat, someone tossed us a bone and we are chewing on it like a pitt bull. Besides, ANYTHING has to be better than what we been getting served these last six years. This cracker comes saltined too .
Originally Posted By jonvn What you're saying is that you've been so polarized in your ideas about the place, that you're willing to throw out any sense of balance and critical view of it. In other words, you'll accept any crap they want to toss at you. Well, I didn't want to do that in 2001, and I don't want to do that now. Everything needs to be examined on balance, and with an even handed eye. What was done in 2001 wasn't so bad as some people say, and what's announced now is not that great. As I said, we will see. But if they turn this place into even more of a randomland "Disney's Random Adventure" then it's basically going to be little better than it was before. Sure, it will be more ornate, and shiny. Apparently people seem to think shiny equates to good. Not much more intelligent than a magpie.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney <<What you're saying is that you've been so polarized in your ideas about the place, that you're willing to throw out any sense of balance and critical view of it. In other words, you'll accept any crap they want to toss at you. Well, I didn't want to do that in 2001, and I don't want to do that now. Everything needs to be examined on balance, and with an even handed eye.>> LMAO!! You can't win, can you kids . When I spend my weekly tirad on the park for the last 6 YEARS, after visiting it numorous times, doing every attraction, see every show, I based my displeasure on that experience and people called me harsh, negative and bitter because I was TOO critical on the park(s) and the company. Now of course, I see the changes they want to make, I generally like them and just saying to have a wait-and-see attitude before I crown DCA the best park behind TDS (LIKE I did with DCA since I never commented on it until AFTER I visited it) now I'm kowtowing to the company and willing to accept *anything* lol. I simply LIKE what's there so far just like people who happen to like DCA in its current carnation LIKE DCA for what's there now. And I will go out on a huuuuge limb here and say what is coming is 50 times better what's there now. But, I'm now officially a sheep now lol. *Throws hands up in the air*
Originally Posted By jonvn "I see the changes they want to make" I responded to what you said: "ANYTHING has to be better than what we been getting served these last six years. This cracker comes saltined too" "now I'm kowtowing to the company " Based on what you said previously, yes that is what you made it sound like.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney ^^Its a big difference between just gushing at ANYTHING the company gives you and just really liking what you see. Yeah, the cracker analogy stands, it's still a great cracker, right? Now, if I said 6 months later and we were given poop (which is what I think you feel about it) to eat instead and still gushing over it, well THAT'S kowtowing . Like I said though, its a wait-and-see thing and we ALL know the concept art usually comes off much better than the actual thing sometimes (kind of like the original DCA ), but yeah its really exciting for many people and I can understand why.
Originally Posted By jonvn I don't think it's all crap. The entrance sounds like it might be nice. I have said wait and see, but I honestly don't expect much different than what we have now, only in a different looking package.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney ^^And that's fine . Like I said, days before I actually saw the concept on this stuff, I wasn't happy with most of it either and said it many times. But damn do those shiny pictures and 3D persuade me ;D.
Originally Posted By jonvn We saw all kinds of things that were going to go in. Like a trellised entrance, instead of what we got. All sorts of things were thrown out there. And, I really don't think it's that great a cracker right now. I'm sure the new entryway will be nice. I have ZERO interest in yet another cartoon dark ride, and Cars is not my favorite movie. I hope the walt disney story is well done.
