Originally Posted By Doobie This topic is for discussion of the July 11 article: Fantillusion at Disneyland Paris at <a href="News-ID507280.asp" target="_blank">http://LaughingPlace.com/News-ID507280.asp</a>.
Originally Posted By geoffa For European fans - if you buy the DLP souvenir DVD it includes a documentary about Fantillusion with some excellent footage of the parade, its origins and a section on fans of The Main Street Electrical Parade.
Originally Posted By Disneydanny the only thing is if your buying it for use on US DVD players your going to have to do some re-configuring because currently I can only play my copy on my computer.
Originally Posted By geoffa So get your self a multi region DVD player and you'll need a TV that is NTSC /PAL friendly. Unfortunately the DLP DVD only comes in PAL and SECAM versions. There are programs to convert but sound sync is a problem as NTSC is 30 frames a second and PAL is only 25. Sorry if I'm getting too technical here.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>The missing floats are largely repetitive elements within each Act.<< I disagree. The missing floats (along with the few that were trasported to DLP made up for a most impressive and cohesive show, as opposed to DLP's butchered states. The parade as it is now looks rushed and incomplete to those of us who saw it in it's original version at the park for which it was designed to play. Rather than dropping these floats for the reasons forementioned in the article...I would dare add that budgets were one reason for the parade being shorted, and I am yet to see a great cast of parade performers such as the cast and crew that performed at and made TDL's Fantillusion! a hit from day one.
Originally Posted By Chelledun That was an interesting article...I wondered about Sleeping Beauty being missing when it is, after all, her castle.
Originally Posted By leemac <<I would dare add that budgets were one reason for the parade being shorted>> If you had seen how the OLC had treated the floats before shipping them out to Paris you would appreciate why this isn't the case. They left them out in the elements to decay. I still stand by the repetitive elements. I also think a parade that only really comes alive in show modes is a huge mistake. You miss so much of the show depending on where you sit. The whole Enchanted Garden sequence could pass you by (at both TDL and DLP) and you would see no characters due to the dark drapes and even the walking performers would be cloaked. Love the music but just a Fantasmic! rip-off in my opinion.
Originally Posted By geoffa Well, for us mere mortals that haven't seen it in any shape or form before it hit Paris I find it colouful and entertaining and would suggest you take a chill pill! You have to accept that DLP is the poor relation - if they'd built it in a country where the climate and attendance figures would be guaranteed then you get stuff relative to income.But ex beet fields came cheap! With a £26 million ($40 million)loss on last years accounts they ain't going to throw money about. DLP is never likely to get Fantasmic so Fantillusion in its Parissiene form is the best you're gonna get. Why do you think the studios are so small?
Originally Posted By deephil Having just got back from DLP I just have to mention that Chip & Dale were on the garden float when we watched it, the only problem we saw was the fact that Cinderella & Sleeping Beauty were missing also there were large gaps between floats which made it quite obvious there was something missing. Sometimes the floats went too fast and other times they went too slow. Giving an appearance of not quite fitting and hard to follow the story sometimes.
Originally Posted By leemac Hmm that is unusual. It is normally very slick and I've never seen it with any gaps. Maybe they are just getting tired towards the end of the summer season this weekend! ))
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>the only problem we saw was the fact that Cinderella & Sleeping Beauty were missing also there were large gaps between floats which made it quite obvious there was something missing<< The Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty float was one of the floats (of several) taken out from the original TDL version of "Fantillusion!" Gaps during the parade can be frustrating due to the theme of this parade which is meant as a rolling light show. The one time I watched it from the Castle Stage audience area... we got to see both the Garden and Villains show mode, then the Princess finale just went by and didn't not perform the show mode. That was odd and sort of killed the only redeaming qualitites of Fantillusion! as presented now at DLP.
Originally Posted By fredddy TDL, I would like to know how they performed Fantillusion in Tokyo. Because in Paris, the only place where you have the 3 stops is in the central hub. In the castle stage and main Street, you have 2 stops and in the section going to Fantasyland and in Town Square, we have only 1 stop. Enven though, it still takes 45 minutes for the parade to go from Town Square to Fantasyland. So, if they made the 3 stops for all the viewing areas since Town Square, this parade would take more than an hour for the entire parade to go from the start to end. And the people in Fantasyland would wait 40 minutes before seeing the first float. So, my question is: how TDL made for all the people to see the 3 stops with a parade twice as long and how long did it take for the entire parade to go from Hounted Mansion to Mickey Toontown? Thank you...
Originally Posted By TDLFAN At TDL, the parade route was divided into 2 zones. Zone A was Fantasyland and Frontierland route (from the Snow White Grotto all the way back to Hanuted Mansion). Zone B was the entire circle around the bub. Zone C was from the Tomorroland terrace and into Toontown. The first act (Magical Garden) would come out and stop in Zone A for the show mode. Then after the show mode, it would proceed on to Zone B (the hub). As Act 1 is moving on to zone B, the Villains Act would move into Zone A and do the show mode. So then you would have Magical Garden and Villains show modes performing simultaneously in zones b and A respectively. Once those two show modes would end, they would move on to the next zones, as the Fairy Tale finale would move into Zone A. Then you would have "Finale" show mode in Zone A, Villains show mode in Zone B, and Magical Garden show mode in Zone C, all 3 show modes playing simultaneously. At that point in time, the entire Fantillusion! Parade would cover the *entire* parade route from start to finsih. Then... as "Magical Garden" ends at zone C and exits into the backstage area, the other parade acts would move up one zone at a time to finish and exit. That is hard to explain and I hope you got it... But to make you understand..all 3 parade acts show modes played 3 times during the parade in each zone. It would take Fantillusion almost 35 minutes to cycle thru.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN A miracle since I meant to say 3 zones, not two. Fantillusion was designed for Tokyo's layout, which is reason why it performed so flawlesly night after night. The DLP layout is not Fantillusion friendly.
Originally Posted By Disneydanny I think OLC made a STUPID decision to send the floats by boat rather then plane
