Originally Posted By Hista98 So i was thinking about this the other day and i don't know if a 1930's redo of the hollywood pictures backlot is a good idea! Why?? mainly because of the rides, none of the rides would work. most of them are themed to modern day movies and shows and to redo the look to 1930's would create an odd clash that would be very strange if they did do this they would have to redo all the rides, even ToT wouldn't work. it does take place in the 30's but it's supposed to be modern day hollywood looking at an old hotel form the 30's it's not supposed to seem like it just happened last night or something, I think instead they should do a more modern look at hollywood that why it woudn't clash. HPB is also one of the few areas we haven't seen concept art for. Anyone have thoughts on this??
Originally Posted By dshyates I don't know that hookers and crack addicts is the family friendly atmosphere they are going for. Seriously, they wouldn't redo the rides, just the fascades. Like TSMM, what do kids toys have to do with a SoCal pier. I think your are taking "theme" a little too seriously. If they took theme that seriously, they would strap you to a real baby elephant and then catapult you skyward. Now THAT would be a Dumbo ride.
Originally Posted By Hista98 well all i meant was is that most of the story telling would be lost, they also would have to redo the monsters inc building
Originally Posted By dshyates Yes, they would need to re-facade Monsters, Inc. and thats a good thing.
Originally Posted By Hista98 ya, but i think that its important to have the rides match the setting, for example you wouldn't like it if you had frontierland looking like the west and in it you had star tours. it just doesn't work wel
Originally Posted By dshyates I agree, but all the attractions in HPB have a movie or TV tie in. Unlike TSMM, that has the characters crammed in for no reason other than they can. Kids toys have no reason to be there other than Disney synergy. Sort of what they are doing to IASW.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Isn't the main drag of HWP Backlot already themed to the 1930's or thereabouts? Hollywood isn't some old relic. It's dynamic. Thus, I think the area should reflect the old and the new, just as it does now.
Originally Posted By dshyates Right now, to me, it feels more like a mall themed around a Hollywood theme. It doesn't feel like it represents a real place like DHS does. Its disjointed and noncohesive.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt True. But then again, so is Hollywood. On that note DHS feels very disjointed and jumbled to me.
Originally Posted By dshyates Rally, I think the themeing at DHS is really well done in the parts that are supposed to look like Hollywood. The park is more schizophrenic now than when it was built though. Can anyone say Big Ugly Hat. But from the hat to the front of the park I think is really well done. My problems with DHS have little to do with the themeing.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Yeah, I guess I agree. I haven't been there to see the hat to comment firsthand, but its position as the park's icon exemplifies everything that is wrong with the whole "magic" marketing BS that Disney is puts forth these days. What always troubled me about DHS is the rather haphazard way it was developed shortly after it opened. Everything sort of falls apart thematically once you move past the Chinese Theater. But, like I said, that isn't far off from what the real experience of Hollywood is like. The town really has kind a kind of schizophrenic feel.
Originally Posted By ArchtMig The two things I want most from the Hollywood section (3 things, actually) is to turn the cheap false front "sets" of the main drag into real buildings, add an impressively ornate enclosed lobby to the Hyperion Theater, make the inside of the Hyperion more ornate, and do a better job of adding facades to the bare sides and rears of the buildings that front the Tower of Terror to make that area more streetscape-like. Okay, that was four things. Oh yeah... create a much more immersively themed, spooky garden setting for the TOT queue area. Five things.
Originally Posted By ryanbalas After spending time at Universal Studios (volunteering for charity events), you get used to the fake city streets feel. When DCA opened and I walked into the DHS area, boy was I disappointed. The very nice 50's diner that served no purpose and (as already mentioned) great storefronts that serve no purpose. I have a feeling that as the years pass and the park ages, it will keep improving. Love the post on what to do with the Hyperion waiting area and inside!
Originally Posted By ryanbalas Sorry. To post on your topic. I don't like the sanitized look backwards in time. Dollywood created a 50's themed area to her park a few years ago and it went gangbusters. They had to expand it almost immediately (the most visited part of the park for families). You get a remember when without all the realities that went with it. Disneyland Main Street has it right. The fake advertisements, the window names/companies, etc. It is only when you look at the menu or the price board that the 21st century says hello. Think of New York New York in Las Vegas. I hate it. Why?? Because it is too clean - too polished. People love New York for its gritty reality, cracked sidewalks, uneven curbs, and buildings of everykind crammed into a small space.
Originally Posted By ArchtMig ^^^Well, true, but... The real French Quarter of New Orleans is much more gritty and crustified than its Disneyland NOS counterpart. You can even smell the garbage on the streets in the real place because there are very few alleys to keep the trash cans. (Ever get a whiff of day-old crawfish and crab legs that's waiting in some dumpster for the next truck to whisk it away?. And no, it's not like you have to go dumpster-diving to know that it's there!) Not to say that going to the real French Quarter is not an experience to cherish and remember. But I'm glad that the Disneyland version is a bit fresher, cleaner and stagecraft-like.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt I love the French Quarter in New Orleans. Best thing is to get away from Bourbon Street and investigate the quaint little streets a little further north of the touristy areas.
Originally Posted By ArchtMig Hans, didn't it blow you away how much the buildings reminded you of Disneyland? Just kidding, sort of, but it just shows how well the artists at WED recreated the look and feel of the place.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt ^^Yes. DL's New Orleans Square is an excellent example of the kind of attention to detail and storytelling that Disney is capable of putting in its parks. Still, it's unfortunate that many of the high-end shops that once completed the experience have been replaced with mediocre theme park merchandise. My favorites were the antique shop and the perfumery. These days I'd much rather poke my head around the shops of the real French Quarter than DL's version. Oh, and let's not even start with the food.
