Originally Posted By vbdad55 Well more people will get to know how it rolls here after 50 years of one party rule in Chicago and Illinois - with all labor issues controlled by unions. <a href="http://www.suntimes.com/business/5018262-420/federal-union-workers-urged-not-to-vacation-in-anti-union-states.html" target="_blank">http://www.suntimes.com/busine...tes.html</a> the Outfit has nothing on this bunch
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Oh brother. They sent an email to their members telling them -- surprise! -- that they should vacation in states that haven't been hostile to unions. What would you expect them to do? The union members are free to agree or disagree, follow the advice or ignore it. You're jumping at shadows, vbdad.
Originally Posted By DlandDug Maybe this topic should go to WE? As 2ny points out, this is just the Union being the Union. They also "ordered" their members to buy only domestic made automobiles. And we all know how well that one turned out.
Originally Posted By disneykid90 Well at this point more and more states are moving anti-union. I cannot blame them when you see what they have done to their two biggest strongholds and the companies as well.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 One need only visit Detroit once - to see what the combination of crooked politicans / unwavering unions can do -
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom To some extent the company's sponcering rides/ attractions, pavillions at WDW are doing the same thing. They are hopping you will buy GM products, Nestle, Kodak, Phillips, Disney, etc. It's up to the consumer to decide if they are going to be brand loyal. Is it any different from Lee Iacocca asking Americans to "buy American"?
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< One need only visit Detroit once - to see what the combination of crooked politicans / unwavering unions can do - >>> American management style had a lot to do with it as well. <<< Is it any different from Lee Iacocca asking Americans to "buy American"? >>> ... as he tried to sell you a Made In Canada vehicle - remember that one? Speaking of boycotts, didn't the Southern Baptists hold a boycott against Disney for nearly a decade? How'd that work out for them?
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <<Speaking of boycotts, didn't the Southern Baptists hold a boycott against Disney for nearly a decade? How'd that work out for them?>> They spent so much time outside the Magic Kingdom, they decided it would be a lot more fun to be in the parks. So now they have their own event! Night of Joy!!! <a href="http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/parks/magic-kingdom/special-events/night-of-joy/" target="_blank">http://disneyworld.disney.go.c...-of-joy/</a>
Originally Posted By Manfried "75,000 Chicago area federal employees at various federal agencies." No wonder government is so screwed up. Why are there that many federal workers in Chicago?
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^ they're all related ;-) truthfully one of the most bureaucratically controlled places on earth-- and it's why we all pay so darn much for everything it's what happens when one party runs eveything for 70 + years -- checks and balances gone so very long ago.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 last republican mayor of Chicago was at same time Al Capone ran the town - true statement
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Most powerful man in Illinois the past 25 yers- Illinois speaker of the House Mike Madigan......
Originally Posted By vbdad55 If WDW was in Illinois I can promise 1/ all roads leading to the parks would be toll roads 2/ all properties nearby would be owned by Chicago aldermen and their families 3/ there would be at least a $10 entertainment tax on each ticket sold 4/ tickets would be 25$ higher because not a single extension cord could be plugeed in without a union electrician and his foreman present 5/ tram drivers would be city bus drivers making $90K a year ( and calling in sick 30% of the time ) 6/ Seven Seas lagoon would be lined with river boats of WDW would be a vastly different place if located in Illinois -- in fact no way would it be open tody
Originally Posted By vbdad55 did you read the article befor asking ? Or look at the picture in the Chicago Paper- large picture of Cindy's Castle and huge push in press and on air by Chicago union leaders and some Pol's to avoid vacationing in Florida/ Wisconsin and Ohio for their anti union stances THATS what it has to do with WDW..
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Annual visitors to Disney World: 25 million. Annual visitors to Chicago: 45 million They must be doing SOMETHING right! Source:<a href="http://hillmanwonders.com/america/walt_disney_world.htm" target="_blank">http://hillmanwonders.com/amer...orld.htm</a> <a href="http://www.explorechicago.org/city/en/my_chicago.html" target="_blank">http://www.explorechicago.org/...ago.html</a>
Originally Posted By vbdad55 When one lives 1200 miles from WDW and it makes top sheet news in the papers and on the air-- I think it is related to WDW... sorry it didn't make the papers in Florida..or doesn't cover the smell in the monorail, but in an economically driven world I thought it important enough to bring up. Nice facts there RT - it shows even with the cost/expense associated with a visit here..people do. As some of the class warfare issues bleed over into everyday life- could this have a major effect on attendance at WDW ? Not IF it stays a Chicago/IL only issue- but remembering that Chicago politics have many faces in Washignton now...this could grow and become an issue.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 of course it makes no sense..and it would hurt more people than it helps-- but some goups have rabid, unquestioning support ( almost like fan bases) - and do as they are 'told'. if one has lived in a non union state their whole life they may not understand how this affects things..living in a highly unionized and governmentally controlled state-- boycotts / and strikes have been a way of life forever..and at times they can be crippling
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan vbdad, what would you expect unions to do? Not speak up when they feel their interests are at stake? The whole point of a union is to present a face of solidarity, to show that workers are all on the same team. That's why they don't cross picket lines. You have governors of certain states who have made it their business to try and limit the effectiveness of unions. That's just a fact. So, in response, unions push back by asking members to not spend their vacation dollars in those states. And union members either will or will not listen to that advice. But, really, what would you expect unions to do?
