Originally Posted By ChiMike Attendance in M, Growth or Loss in Percentage, Name, Location 16.97 M -1.5% Magic Kingdom, Orlando, FL 15.98 M +0.5% Disneyland, Anaheim, CA 14.45 M +5.9% Tokyo Disneyland, Tokyo, Japan 12.66 M +5.5% Tokyo DisneySea, Tokyo, Japan 10.83 M -1.5% EPCOT, Orlando, FL 10.50 M -2.6% Disneyland Paris, Marne-la-Vallee, Fran ce 9.87 M +1.0% Disney’s Animal Kingdom, Kissimmee, FL 9.60 M -1.0% Disney’s Hollywood Studios, Orlando, FL 8.16 M +2.0% Universal Studios Japan, Osaka, Japan 6.88 M +11.6% Everland, South Korea 6.29 M +3.0% Disney California Adventure, Anaheim, CA 5.95 M +30.2% Islands of Adventure, Orlando FL 5.93 M +6.1% Universal Studios, Orlando FL 5.55 M +22.4% Lotte World, Seoul, South Korea 5.20 M +13.0% Hong Kong Disneyland, Hong Kong 5.10 M -12.1% SeaWorld Florida, Orlando, FL 5.10 M +6.3% Ocean Park, Hong Kong 5.04 M +26.0% Universal Studios Hollywood, Universal City, CA 4.50 M -2.6% Walt Disney Studios, Marne-la-Vallee, France 4.47 M -5.0% Nagashima Spa Land, Kuwana Japan 4.25 M 0.0 Europa Park, Rust Germany 4.20 M +2.4% Busch Gardens Tampa Bay, Tampa FL 4.02 M -6.0% Yokohama Sea Paradise, Japan 4.00 M 0.0% De Efteling, The Netherlands 3.80 M -9.5% SeaWorld California, San Diego, CA Only AK saw a rise in attendance, and that was very modest. All the while, Orlando sees a 10%+ increase in regional tourism.
Originally Posted By alexbook Okay, yeah, here's a thread in the DL section with more details: <a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/MsgBoard-T-120339-P-1.asp" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/Ms...-P-1.asp</a> Here's the TEA's editorial bit: >>“The 2010 TEA/AECOM Theme Index reveals an average attendance increase of 1.8 percent in North American parks, with many sectors at or close to prerecession levels,” said John Robinett, senior vice president, Economics at AECOM. “The major players saw mixed results, but the trend was generally positive. Both Universal and Disney parks reaped the rewards of substantial reinvestment with outstanding new attractions in Orlando and Los Angeles. Orlando saw regional tourism grow by 10.5 percent and preliminary estimates indicate 8 percent growth in Los Angeles. Both residents and tourists are coming back to the parks.” “The remarkable success of Universal Studios’ Wizarding World of Harry Potter lifted attendance at Universal’s two parks in Orlando by more than 1.7 million visitors in 2010,” said Brian Sands, AICP, vice president, Economics at AECOM. “Universal Studios Hollywood was also up significantly due to the opening of King Kong 360 3-D. World of Color, at Disney California Adventure, helped offset a mostly flat year for Disney parks. These are great examples of how valuable strong content and excellent execution are for the themed entertainment industry, in what remains a challenging economic environment.”<<
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Surprised IoA wasn't above 6 million, butit's still pretty impressive how much of a boost Potter gave them for only being open 1/2 a year. This year's attendance should be even better. DHS and Epcot dropped 1% and 1.5% each. Time for something new and exciting in both, I think.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Also, the fact that USF also rose in attendance along with IoA shows that people are indeed going to Universal for the entire RESORT, rather than just a day like most people were speculating before Potter.
Originally Posted By joe80x86 Notice the 12% drop at Seaworld though. Even with them having opened a new coaster. Aquatica also saw a 6% drop.
Originally Posted By joe80x86 Also According to what was posted in the DL section thread there is an interesting change over the years for UO and IOA: Park 2001 2010 UO 7.2mil 5.9mil IOA 5.5mil 5.9mil
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt ^^ Yep. If you add those numbers together it's a net loss of .9 million visitors in 2010 over 2001. What's even more interesting is that in 2001 both UO and IOA were down from the previous year.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "DHS and Epcot dropped 1% and 1.5% each. Time for something new and exciting in both, I think." Think again. The combined attendance at UO and IOA in 2010 was 4 million less than the entire year for the MK. I don't disagree that Disney needs to step up its game, but certainly not because of anything going on up the road at Universal.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo But do not these losses at Uni tally with Magic Express starting as well as the likely drop off at the beginning of the year while the WWoHP were under construction. Just Like I suspect we will see a large for 2012 when DCA Phase 2 is complete.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Maybe Dave, but DCA has been running increases for the past several years while major sections of the park have continuously been behind construction walls, and it won't end until next summer. It's probably an apples and oranges comparison since the two resorts have vastly different audiences (locals vs vacationers), so draw your own conclusions.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo No doubt TSMM and WoC brought people in (hence the rise) and Little Mermaid will continue the trend. But I think when all the construction walls come down and Cars Land is open, we will see quite a climb in DCA. I know dozens of Europeans who all want to go, but are waiting. One friend cancelled 2 trips to DLP this year, took a short weekend to Rome instead and put the rest of his money in the bank to go to DLR in 2012. Then again, the first click thing means we may not get a full view. As for DHS, I thought that Star Tours 2 would help it, but if the queues were shorter for it than that stupid video game ride in the park during Star Wars weekend, then probably not. Maybe F! being back on will help too.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I think one thing that every theme park operator has to envy about Disney is its HUGE built in audience. The fact that DLP can be literally falling to pieces and operate without any major new attractions and still rank in the top ten attended parks in the world says something.
Originally Posted By Christi22222 ^^Yes it does say something. And Disney banks on that something to get feet throught the turnstiles even when the parks don't deserve it. But there are clear changes in trends here, and that should be a red flag to anyone at Disney. Momentum can take them quite a ways, but I see these numbers as saying not all the way.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I get your point, but the numbers published yesterday don't really say much to me other than Universal had a significant bump from Potter and possibly siphoned a few guests away from WDW. Whether this is a long term trend or not is yet to be seen. Even with the slight drop last year, Disney's numbers are way up in 2010 over 2001 (a benchmark for a bad year in the industry) while Universal's attendance is down.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Think again. The combined attendance at UO and IOA in 2010 was 4 million less than the entire year for the MK. I don't disagree that Disney needs to step up its game, but certainly not because of anything going on up the road at Universal. >> Where did I say the two were related?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<^^ Yep. If you add those numbers together it's a net loss of .9 million visitors in 2010 over 2001. What's even more interesting is that in 2001 both UO and IOA were down from the previous year.>> And? They're bringing people back in in droves. IoA will be close to if not over 7 million next year, and USF will be around 6.5.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Where did I say the two were related?" You didn't. I jumped to conclusions.
Originally Posted By dshyates "I don't disagree that Disney needs to step up its game, but certainly not because of anything going on up the road at Universal." I disagree. While IOA's numbers are in a different ball park. Those of us that love themed entertainment are in agreement that Universal Creative is kicking WDI's mouse tail in attraction development. And I believe that Transformers will reiterate the point. Now outside the competitive issues. WDW saw an across the board decline (save DAK) while central Fl saw a 10% increase, and Universal saw a massive increase. All while offering free dining. Universal may have siphoned off a few Disney days. But I believe the increased traffic to Cent. FL actually added people to Disney's numbers. As in the Mouse rode Potter's robe tails into JUST a modest decrease. I believe that had Universal NOT have opened Potter, WDW's numbers would have been far less impressive.
