Originally Posted By LindsayC Both disneyandmore and stitchkingdom.com are featuring posters for the new lands at HKDL which show more details about what is proposed: <a href="http://www.disneyandmore.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://www.disneyandmore.blogspot.com/</a> (scroll down past the long interview with Imagineer Pat Burke - it’s the 10th of July feature) <a href="http://www.stitchkingdom.com/2009/07/10/disney-releases-posters-advertising-new-lands-at-hong-kong-disneyland/" target="_blank">http://www.stitchkingdom.com/2...neyland/</a>
Originally Posted By LindsayC for disneyandmore’s feature: <a href="http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2009/07/new-hong-kong-disneyland-artwork.html" target="_blank">http://disneyandmore.blogspot....ork.html</a>
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Am I the only one that's a little worried by the prominence of a photo spot in the Toy Story Land poster? Is there really nothing that they're doing there? They have the halfpipe thing and the parachute drop, along with whatever the Slinky Dog thing will be, and that looks like it's it. None of those are particularly memorable (or even fun) attractions, IMO.
Originally Posted By irishfan They have the halfpipe thing and the parachute drop, along with whatever the Slinky Dog thing will be, and that looks like it's it. None of those are particularly memorable (or even fun) attractions, IMO.<< True, TSMM seems an obvious anchor attraction for this land.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney WOW, this section is just completely dead isnt it, even with all the announcements. I think the posters have certainly shown a greater level of detail that makes me more excited for the additions, namely the rides. It looks like this park is finally getting a little more original and building that can only be found here. I dont think it matters much locally but maybe it can draw a little more international tourists in who have all heard the park is too small and too cloned with C ticket affair to give it a chance. But agree with others about TSL, the poster just makes it look MORE tacky! I dont know what the hell they are thinking throwing this in Paris AND Hong Kong?? Disney has always been pretty good with kid areas in the past, but now its all Six Flaggs affair lately with these areas. And yeah, if they could figure out a way in their half a billion dollar budget just include a nice C or D ticket dark ride like TSM or something new would make a world of difference for this place. It seems like a no-brainer, honestly!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I have really mixed emotions here. I am excited for Grizzly Trail and Mystic Point, but there is still some toonyness here (in Grizzly, all the flooded buildings) and in Mystic Point, I was frothing until I saw the poster with all the monkeys. And TSL is a waste of space for HKDL and WDSP, but there you go. I do hope Grizzly and Mystic Point turn out well, then there would finally be a reason to go.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney You said it Dave. I was there a year ago just to see IASW and there is not a single reason I can think to go back other than the fact I'm having serious Disney withdrawels and its the closet one to me lol. I dont see any reason to go back there anytime soon, but if Grizzly and Mystic Point turn out to be good then it might finally be a park I would gladly like to make multiple trips for. But TSL just left me cold however.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo TSL doesn't leave me cold....quite the contrary, it makes my blood boil!!!! Gggggrrrrrrrrrr.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney LOL!! Yeah I remember the days I use to be angry everytime Disney did something so utterly stupid like this area and their last 3 theme parks, but therapy has taught me anger only brings on a heart attack much faster in life . Still though and I know I keep repeating myself here, I dont know what the hell are they thinking with this land. *I* can come up with something better than that. These people are paid a lot of money, is this really the only idea they can think of or is the budget simply that small, geez! We both saw that WOC presentation, c'mon Disney you obviously can do a hell of a job when you put effort into it, I thought we were finally behind the cheap layovers and quick fixes for these parks??
Originally Posted By barboy Concerning theme parks here is wisdom: If the artist's conceptual drawings don't inspire and look lackluster then look out for the real thing as it will surely be a sad addition; I give you Toy Story Land. Now Frontierland, I mean Westernland, I mean Grizzly Trail should be a winner. I am most definitely looking forward to the Expedition Everest train ride---- CAN'T WAIT since I know it will come out far better than the one at Animal Kingdom. Hello Haunted Mansion!!! I will be seeing you too buddy.
Originally Posted By barboy The Mystic House Tour looks to be very inviting since it will use independent ride vehicles with stadium seating and it will be a unique attraction. Even worse than park toonification is attack of the clones. I'd take any mainstream Disney shortcoming under the sun before cloning. Clones are public enemy #1 and I'm glad to see the additions will bring something new.
Originally Posted By barboy Ok somebody has to say it. Adding three 1/2 to 3/5 baked lands instead of fully developing two of them is a huge, huge mistake. We need a volunteer to bow out since we can only afford two of you. So one of you three please step forward for the good of the park..... ....nice to see you take one for the team Toy Story Land; you're doing the right thing here and we all appreciate it. Happy trails Woody and Co..
Originally Posted By Scottydem Expedition Everest is not going to HKDL. You obviously have never rode the ride to know it is barely outside before the actual ride and is yeti themed with a giant Mount Everest. Imagineers would never put an Everest mountain in an Asian park. It wouldn't be exotic enough.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy The Grizzly Trail coaster is essentially Expedition Everest with some different background scenery. It will be the same coaster system, with forward and reverse modes. Instead of a Yeti, there will be a grizzly bear. That's why the comparison is being made.
Originally Posted By barboy ///Expedition Everest is not going to HKDL./// I was joking and I have been on Everest maybe 10 to 12 times. I was just drawing a loose parallel where we board an outdoors train and meet up with a full blown star of the show---- a grizzly AA(instead of Yeti). But looking more closely I see multiple Grizzlies in a more playful and anthropomorphic context unlike EE. Big Thunder Mnt is a better comparison based on on the artwork.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy ^^ Based on the artwork, Expedition Everest is the better comparison.
Originally Posted By barboy ///Based on the artwork, Expedition Everest is the better comparison/// On my second and more thorough look of the artwork I just don't agree. 1 MOOD...Everest intends to be foreboding and serious whereas the grizzly coaster's mood will be light hearted, welcoming, anthropomorphic and playful with an element or two of suspense: (A) Look at the faces of the riders---all 6 riders that we see are smiling. 4 out of the 6 have their hands in the air expressing happiness/joy/excitement. (B) There is a Grizzly cub poking out of what looks to be a mining car. Clearly this is for the cuteness factor to play on our softer emotions. (C) A 'clumsy' adult grizzly accidently sits on the manual track switching lever sending the train the wrong or different way to a broken up track caused by dynamite mining(Now that part has Everest written all over it) while 3 more bears look on--- two of which have that ticked off look. 2 TRACK LAYOUT...Grizzly Trail looks like it covers more terrain in the tradition of Big Thunder Mnt in WDW, just more spread out(or the feeling of being spread out at least) hence they call it 'trail' as if there is more horizontal track than vertical. The thrust of Everest is the feeling of vertical travel in and around Mt. Everest. 3 AA ENCOUNTERS... Everest has but one Yeti and riders get one full sight encounter. On Grizzly trail we will meet up with a few bears all with different personalities and predispositions. 4 SETTING... I'm thinking Grizzly Trail is either set in Wyoming or California, or it could be set in generic US western mountain ranges. Bryce canyon(Big Thunder's spiritual home) is so much closer to the western mountain theme than to the icy Himalayas. And both Grizzly and Thunder subject the guest to perilous mining environments. 5 RIDE VEHICLE/TRAIN... Look at that grizzly train--- it's a 'spittin' image of Big Thunder Mnt's. I just better not hear "hold on to them hats and glasses 'cause this here is the wildest ride in the wilderness" when I get some in the near future.
Originally Posted By barboy ///Imagineers would never put an Everest mountain in an Asian park. It wouldn't be exotic enough./// You're right, that would be beyond stupid and asinine now wouldn't it. Disney just doesn't do things like that. Can you just imagine if Disney ever put up a park themed to California inside California--- it would just scream of absurdity!
Originally Posted By barboy Toy Story Land.... I know Hong Kong DL doesn't see too many guests but be prepared to wait in Toy Story. What's up with those excrutiatingly low capacity rides like the green army man drop zone(not a big deal since I'll bet that it will be a 'C' experience at best) and that half pipe 'D' ticket looking car ride. The way that that half pipe is situated I'm thinking 1 car per ride cycle(unless it will be a twin track--- but the art doesn't show two). Hmmmmmm I see waits.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 The artwork is less than thrilling, but I've noticed that on almost everything released from WDI over the past five years. The last rendering that really got me excited was EE itself. Grizzly at HKDL looks to be a hybrid of a lot of different concepts ... EE mixed with BTMRR mixed with GRR mixed with the never-built Geyser Mountain. I am betting that's exactly what it will feel like when it opens.
