Out with the old in with the new

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    Originally Posted By ihaveaquestion3

    I have seen a few posts recently about which attractions should be ressurected, and how changes to classic rides is destroying Walts Dream. I think it's good that we all remember the old rides we liked, and miss them, I think that may have been part of Walts dream, that our past experiences at Disneyland will always be remembered. But the past is the past and I think it's worth discussing what type of attractions Disneyland should invest in for the future. Perhaps some curious imagineer will stumble across this topic or something and we might see something done about it, (Wishful Thinking)

    I saw posted last week about an Aladdin ride. I have always thought that would make a good ride. Riding in a carpet hanging from the track above like Peter Pan. Perhaps it could be a more thrilling ride Not too intense, but something a bit more thrilling than the other Fantasyland rides. There could be a scene where the Cave of Wonders turns to lava where it apears like your racing really fast to get out and the lava rises up. Also there would be a big Genie that apears out of the lamp magically. I don't know I think they could really do some good stuff with an Aladdin themed ride. Perhaps building it where the fantasyland theater is or where the skyway station is. If you've ever thought of a cool ride that would go in Disneyland post it here!!!
     
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    Originally Posted By BrerFoxx

    I agree. Walt disney was always looking to the future, dreaming of the next attraction. And so, I believe it is not useful to bring back the past but rather to improve the future of Disneyland.

    I think the Aladin ride should be a rollercoaster.
     
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    Originally Posted By Autopia Deb

    Before the Indy ride came out I thought they should do a coaster based on the runaway mine cars in the second movie (seems to me making a ride would be the only use for THAT dog of a film)
     
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    Originally Posted By SuzieQ

    There's already an Aladdin's Magic Carpet ride at WDW. It's like Dumbo :(
     
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    Originally Posted By wonderingalice

    Autopia Deb... Boy, you really nailed that 'dog' right on the head. Terrible movie. Thank goodness Indy invited his dad to the next one and brought back the greatness of the first film.

    I'd love to see a Mary Poppins attraction... :)
     
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    Originally Posted By alexbook

    I'm still waiting for a Kim Possible attraction. (I've always wanted to be Ron Stoppable. :)
     
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    Originally Posted By SuzieQ

    ^ not Rufus? ;)

    (just joshin with you)
     
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    Originally Posted By trekkeruss

    <<Before the Indy ride came out I thought they should do a coaster based on the runaway mine cars in the second movie>>

    They did, it's at DLP. Many seem to think poorly of it because it's an off-the-shelf coaster, but the theming is very good, IMO. It's outdoors however... you aren't riding in a mine shaft but around the ruins of an ancient temple.
     
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    Originally Posted By SleepingBeauty82

    I agree. I've always thought a Aladin ride would do really well. The Nemo subs were a GREAT idea! I wish they would do something Sleeping Beauty themed since they closed the walk-through and don't have anything else to preresent that movie. But I don't hold much hope for that since it's not a new movie.
     
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    Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA

    Actually, one of the original plans for the 'Indiana Jones' attraction was a larger complex that would have the motion-based jeep attraction and a wild mouse ore car attraction winding through it.

    I remember seeing some artist renderings of the whole complex -- with the jeeps on the ground, and the wild mouse track overhead -- there were even plans for the Jungle Cruise boats to pass inside the complex, and the Disneyland Railroad too. [sort of like they do with Splash Mountain].
     
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    Originally Posted By wonderingalice

    ^^Now THAT would have been VERY cool!
     
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    Originally Posted By Lisann22

    No kidding, instead we get the Jungle Cruise jokes about people in the Indy queue. ;>
     
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    Originally Posted By wonderingalice

    ^^*LOL* Not too much immersion there, eh?

    I do like to point and laugh, however. ;-)
     
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    Originally Posted By FerretAfros

    I don't know if it is true or not, but I read somewhere that the mine car scene was inspired by Big Thunder. It is entierely possible (and most probable) that this is just an internet rumor. They also said that some of the sound effects from BTMRR were used in the scene.

    I've thought of an Aladdin ride as well, except my version would be the most similar to Indy's ride type, but mount the top of the jeep on a column that goes up and down. That way, there is horizontal movement in the track, vertical movement in the support column, and lateral movement in the tilting carpet, making it feel like you are floating completely without a track at all. Of course, that would require a huge building (both land wise and vertically, with a huge basement that the columns can go down into) and would be rediculously expensive, but it could work...maybe.
     
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    Originally Posted By bravebrother

    There is more than enough room for an E ticket ride or several c where Big thunder BBQ used to be. They could easily expand either Fantasyland or Frontierland into that area with new attractions.


    .....And leave Temple of Doom alone...there was nothing wrong with that movie.
     
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    Originally Posted By oc_dean

    I love that rendering for Indy too Jim.

    I beleive the imagineers nicknamed it:

    "Everything but the kitchen sink"
     
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    Originally Posted By wonderingalice

    <<.....And leave Temple of Doom alone...there was nothing wrong with that movie.>>

    Nothing wrong with it if you happen to like gratuitous gore (the yanking the heart from the chest bit), child abuse (watching those children being used as slaves was depressing as heck), monkey brains and bugs as food (need I say more?) and a stupid blonde that never stops screaming in your ears... but I don't. ;-)
     
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    Originally Posted By markedward

    My pet dream is a dark ride based on The Little Mermaid or Aladdin. It's about scale. Sweaping outdoor scenes that the magic carpet flies through or over. Or beautiful fantasy undersea scenes that the Little Mermaid cars pass through. Both would be quite large to recreate the expansive feel of flying through the area or gliding under the sea.

    But I'd hate to see Big Thunder Ranch used for either of these. Because another pet idea of mine is to save Frontierland from it's fate as the ever-shrinking land. I'd be much happier if the Ranch area was used for some kind of expansion to Frontierland. Even the petting zoo is a nice little idea.
     
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    Originally Posted By gadzuux

    DL is way overdue for it's next e-ticket.

    Ouimet and his new management team have covered themselves in glory by restoring the park and sheperding it through the fiftieth. They've reinvigorated many of the existing attractions and infrastructure, and returned the disney lustre to disneyland.

    Now it's time for something new. Their success won't be complete until they've actually left thier own thumbprint on the park for generations to come - which they haven't done yet - all they've done is to bring back what was already there.

    The land behind big thunder must be very tempting for them, and there have been rumors about 'woodys round-up' with a connecting path to toontown. It could be a terrific transition between TT and FL, but so far it doesn't sound like there's an 'e-ticket' attraction involved.

    I'd rather see them do something on the east side of the park - that's where the biggest need is. The park is already well dressed on the west side, and could use a major draw on the east side to balance the traffic. I enjoy the relative calm and quietude of BTM trail as it is.

    I've posted my pipedreams here before, but not recently, so here goes. If I ruled the land, autopia would be scraped clean and a new area would be created with access from the area by the TLRR station, and just to the east of 'small world' - a pathway that allows access around the backside of the sub lagoon with a showbuilding in the NE corner, with the DLRR passing through it - actually defining the back perimeter of this new building.

    The monorail station would be relocated to the very back of the park, just east of 'small world' and the parade entrance, and make one loop around the matterhorn and outta the park - maybe with a run down the TL promenade as a replacement for the old peoplemover - the spaghetti bowl would be eliminated.

    The new building would arc from the parade entrance in the back of the park, around the perimeter of the DLRR track with the other end adjacent to the TL RR station, and would incorporate the DLRR and the monorail.

    And of course it would include a kick-ass e-ticket, as well as food, beverage, retail and live entertainment. This new building would be tall too - perhaps even a 'mountain'. The uppermost level would have a dining area that faced out to a panaoramic onto the park in a SW direction, with a view of the matterhorn, the castle, main street, and DCA beyond, all the way back to paradise pier - wouldn't that be beautiful? But you need the elevation to make it possible. The back side would be a flat wall, facing I-5 and harbor blvd - maybe they could put billboards on it - who cares?

    The building would contain the load/unload for this new attraction, with the actual showbuilding located either backstage somewhere, or even replacing 'small world' - heresy to say that, I know. Maybe they could create a second storey to the 'small world' showbuilding - that sucker is enormous. If they stepped it back a bit from the walkways, it would never be visible to guests inside the park, just as you never see the current showbuilding, so scale wouldn't be an issue.

    The front of this new building would be an arcing facade with a plaza of some sort fronting on the sub lagoon, and it would be multilevel, stepping from just above waterline by the lagoon, with arcing walkways stepping up towards this new building, similar to an arena, and helping to diffuse the scale of the size of the building, while allowing for a performance space viewable from multiple levels.

    Not only would this maximize the square footage of the NE quadrant of the park, but it would also dramatically increase the overall capacity of the park by enticing guests into an area where they've never had access before. And it would certainly be an improvement over the go-kart track that's there now.

    Expensive? You bet, but they're improving their own existing park, and increasing it's vitality for years and years to come.

    As ursula says - "Let's DO IT"!
     
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    Originally Posted By idleHands

    <<DL is way overdue for it's next e-ticket. >>

    Uh... isn't that what "Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage" is? DL's next E-Ticket?
     

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