Originally Posted By bravebrother <a href="http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2010/05/06/star-tours-gets-ready-to-make-final-flights-to-endor/" target="_blank">http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2...o-endor/</a> Does this mean that they are going to shut it down early?? I thought the plan was for the fall, but heard they might close it earlier to make sure ST II opens on time next year.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss IMHO, since there are four simulators, they should keep one as the classic ST experience.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 I disagree, I am sick and tired of Disney's fans obsession with the past.... If Walt had wanted things to stay the same and always keep what was old around, we'd still have the bathroom of tomorrow in Tomorrowland.... Change the entire ride, don't leave the classic ST experience because honestly only a small percentage really care...
Originally Posted By trekkeruss It's not an obsession with the past, it's just that they have the opportunity to offer both without any loss. Besides, there are people who have never been to DL, for which the classic ride would still be a first-time experience.
Originally Posted By TP2000 Yeah, a first time experience rooted in the Reagan era, and not in a good way. I've been on Stormchaser at DisneySea, and that was a late 1990's update to the Star Tours technology and it was a vast improvement. I have every faith that when we see what the Imagineers can do with simulator technology in 2010/11 that we will realize how creaky and tired the 1987 Star Tours had become. I love the old Disneyland stuff as much as anyone, but it's time to move on to the latest and greatest technology. Plus, the lone 1987 cabin would be a nightmare for the CM's to try and manage, and I can just picture the two Disney Geeks sitting in the cabin alone with their pin lanyards while the line for the other 3 cabins is 90 minutes or more. It's time to move on. Bring on the updated technology and don't look back, just look forward.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss OK then, how about the classic story but with new updated effects? Give it some screens on top and on the sides, and make it 3D.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 It's not an obsession with the past, it's just that they have the opportunity to offer both without any loss. Besides, there are people who have never been to DL, for which the classic ride would still be a first-time experience.<< No loss? We are looking at 2 hour , maybe 3 hour lines for the first few months, loss of 1 pod, would be a 25% loss of efficiency....
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 OK then, how about the classic story but with new updated effects? Give it some screens on top and on the sides, and make it 3D.<< Waste of money, plus how do you manage 2 different rides, one with a 2 hour wait, and the other with a walk on, imagine people getting mad because it wasnt new, then being told that, oh, you got in wrong line... and signs don't work, for some reason the ignorant flock to Disneyland....
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 My favourite comment from that article, "I went to Disneyland when I was 4 months pregnanat with my now 20-year old daughter. I wanted to feel like a kid "one last time." I went on Star Torus, ignoring the pregnant-lady warning (I was larger so no one noticed) The seat belt riding on my stomach and the way it pitched you about–well I came out of there scared that I had killed my baby. I felt very selfish (PS she lived–but is weird. Maybe that's why?)" I friggin LOVE parents that don't sugar coat their childre and see them as they really are. So refreshing compared to these parents that think their child is perfect and can do no wrong while everybody else can see them as demon spawn.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 I friggin LOVE parents that don't sugar coat their childre and see them as they really are. So refreshing compared to these parents that think their child is perfect and can do no wrong while everybody else can see them as demon spawn.<< I love parents who ignore the safety warning and endanger their kids or themselves...
Originally Posted By Ohana I tend to agree with the "multiple destination" idea even if it includes the original. To me, it's not about worshipping the past, it's actually the exact opposite. The current generation is used to multiple options, faster delivery, faster updates. Whether or not we agree with it, instant gratification is the new "new." If they open the new Star Tours 2 and keep the version for 20 years, it will be dead again after like 2 years. The new generation has so much less patience for "same old, same old" and maybe that's a good thing in regards to encouraging faster updates in the parks. Don't argue "these damn kids should..." just know your growing audience and make them happy
Originally Posted By Ohana First line should say <<<I tend to agree with the "multiple destination" idea even if it means including the original version of Star Tours in one speeder>>>
Originally Posted By Hista98 the only problem i see with many destinations is how do you keep the line moving, what if everyone in line wants to ride one version and one version only I.E. Everyone wants to go to hoth? that would massivley increase the line. plus what about those who don't understand english how would they know where to go or which one to pick?
Originally Posted By plpeters70 <<the only problem i see with many destinations is how do you keep the line moving, what if everyone in line wants to ride one version and one version only>> I have a feeling that you won't have a choice in the matter, and will randomly get a destination each time. It would only make sense from an efficiency standpoint if all the pods could go to all of the destinations. Otherwise, you'll end up with the nightmare of trying to match people up with the destination of choice.
Originally Posted By tashajilek Im all for change in Star tours! I just hope they dont mess it up by making it more the about the newer movies. There would be nothing worse then having jar jar binks as the captain.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<I've been on Stormchaser at DisneySea, and that was a late 1990's update to the Star Tours technology and it was a vast improvement.>> I've been on Stormchaser too, but that's not my opinion of it. The effects are good, but overall I wouldn't say it's a vast improvement because I didn't find the story all that compelling. That's why I like the idea of keeping the original ST, because the story itself is very strong. It's mostly (or only) the tech that holds it back.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Have any of you seen a move 20 times? That's how I feel every time I ride Star Tours. This revamp is way past due. Oh, and for those of you who will miss the current version, never fear. It will eventually return as sure as the sun will rise from the east tomorrow morning. Disney has become very adept at selling nostalgia these days. Capitalizing on the appetite of Disney and Star Wars fans is something that they can do very well.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "<<I've been on Stormchaser at DisneySea, and that was a late 1990's update to the Star Tours technology and it was a vast improvement.>> I've been on Stormchaser too, but that's not my opinion of it. The effects are good, but overall I wouldn't say it's a vast improvement because I didn't find the story all that compelling." I agree. I rode it just after the park opened and I have to say I was kinda "meh" on SR. WHat makes SR a little less effective for me is the size of the "room" that is meant to be your "vehicle". The space feels caverbous, compared to ST and thus I just felt like I was in a theatre, watching a movie while the floor shook a bit. It just felt like Bodywars 2.0 in a larger theatre. Trust me, while 99% of things in TDS are AMAZING, SR is NOT one of them.
