Originally Posted By DLFAN79 Yes it IS Unbelievebale, as in NOT to be believed. Of ALL years MK beat DL. How in the WORD!!!....??? MK did NOTHING. They sat on thier behind, rode DLs marketing coatails, and opened up "Pooh does WalMart" playground. DL has been at CAPACITY AAAAAAAAAL YEEEEAR!!! Did MK close on Veterans Day of ALL days? Or in Oct. and Nov.???? NO! If DL couldnt beatr MK it never will. I doubt Nemo will put DL over the top, especially it comming on Everets heels.
Originally Posted By DLFAN79 whoops, here is the link <a href="http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=67412" target="_blank">http://forums.wdwmagic.com/sho wthread.php?t=67412</a>
Originally Posted By RoadTrip The last time DL had higher attendance than the MK's Magic Kingdom was in 1996. Why did you expect it would be any different this year? Fiftieth anniversary or not, DL is still primarily a day trip for SoCal residents. WDW is a far more complete tourist destination and will always have better attendance than Disneyland. If Disneyland opened an additional gate and developed a wider range of resort hotels (moderate and value) I think they could compete very well with WDW. But why should they? Would Disney really be bringing in additional visitors or just taking people that would have otherwise visited WDW?
Originally Posted By TDLFAN What's more impossible to believe is how on Earth the MK beat out TDL in attendance when on several of my visits in the past year, TDL is clearly much more crowded than the MK, and TDL is more expansive than the MK altogether...
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Although I thought this was just another off the wall slam at MK because DL is the onlyplace on earth -- but hten I saw the comment on the Pooh Playground -- and even if it is only for that comment - you nailed that part DLFAN79 p.s. what is the max daily attendance allowed for DL vs MK -- I would imagine MK holds more per day to begin with. I understand the thought - that with the 50th everyone would pick up and go there vs. DL -- just not the case. For many of us we made our first trip west in years -- but for most -- Disney is Disney...regardless of what we think here.
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney I just have a very hard time believing the MK is more visted than either TDL or DL. ... A very hard time. Numbers can be made to look however you want them to. At least that's what my accountant friends say.
Originally Posted By barboy I, too, am very skeptical about this business of Magic Kingdom seeing more guests than Tokyo Disneyland or DL in Anaheim. DL in Anaheim has not let up this whole year and Tokyo DL was a mad house the days I was there (mid-week, non holidays in the Fal). In the first week of Oct during the height of the meal plan of "Disney Your Way" I did not see big crowds at all the 3 days I was at Magic Kingdom. Yes, I'm a skeptic.
Originally Posted By brotherdave What's hard to believe about it? The majority of the country's population lives on the East Coast. Most people in the East Cost and Mid-Western markets, as crazy as it might sound, (not your die-hard Disney fans, mind you) don't even have a CLUE that Disneyland exists! They only know about WDW. In fact, a good number of people out there have NO CLUE that Disney World consists of FOUR major theme parks, not to mention the rest of what WDW has to offer. It's frustating to us Disney and theme park fans out there, but, there are a LOT of people who think that WDW IS ONLY the Magic Kingdom. If you ask them about EPCOT or any of the other parks, they might answer that it's 'near' Disney World. Most don't even have a clue of what's actually there unless they've been there, and even then, well, some people are just that thick. I wouldn't even blame Disney management or marketing on this. It's just human nature. It's just not that important to the average WDW visitor that other Disney parks exist outside Orlando. Let's face it, it's going to be a lot easier for Travel Agents to sell a Florida vacation than one to California for about 3/4 of the U.S. and Canada, not to mention international tourists. Is this a slam at Disneyland? Hardly. The attendance for Disneyland proves it. They've had a very good year. They're numbers are up. And the West Coast population knows very well about Disneyland. Also, one last reason for MK's attendance figures is Park Hopping. Although the new "Magic Your Way" tickets have cut down on it, many people still do it with older tickets or choose to upgrade to the Park Hopper option. This also helps 'boost' attendance figures for the Magic Kingdom.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< What's more impossible to believe is how on Earth the MK beat out TDL in attendance when on several of my visits in the past year, TDL is clearly much more crowded than the MK, and TDL is more expansive than the MK altogether... >>> I think park-hopping and non-park stuff to do at WDW are your answers. Daily attendance figures count turnstile clicks, and it's quite possible that the average guest at the MK spends a lot less hours in the park than a TDL guest. You have to take into account both turnstile clicks and length of time spent in the park when considering how crowded the park is.
Originally Posted By DlandDug The Magic Kingdom at Walt Disney World has been the most visited theme park in the world for many years now. That this is still true this year is hardly news...
Originally Posted By Blackie Pueblo I agree with those that stated that DW is visited more frequently from people around the world. Besides, DW has four differnt parks. I'm sure that became a factor. But besides the size, I'm wondering if there were one or more items that drew people to DW other than DL? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Check out our free independent films at: <a href="http://www.newlineagefilms.com" target="_blank">http://www.newlineagefilms.com</a>
Originally Posted By Darkbeer FYI, the Worlwide numbers are not yet out, AB/ERA just released the North American ones early. I presume that all the numbers should be available tomorrow afternoon.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>The Magic Kingdom at Walt Disney World has been the most visited theme park in the world for many years now.<< Sorry my dear Doug, but TDL was the most visited Disney parks for many years until last year, as reported by many business and consumer reports. Check your facts on that.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer To expand, Tokyo Disneyland was the most visted park in the world from 1991 thru 2001. In 2002, attendance was split when Tokyo Disney Seas opened... <a href="http://www.scottware.com.au/theme/guide.htm" target="_blank">http://www.scottware.com.au/th eme/guide.htm</a>
Originally Posted By Darkbeer Actually, it might is far back as 1990.... 1988, TDL was Number 1 1989, Disneyland actually had a bigger attendance than TDL. 1990, the TDL attendance number is missing in action....
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I would venture to guess that the MK also has the smallest percentage of AP guests, compared to DL and TDL. I'd be curious how DLP fares, as it's fairly close to Paris; I am just not so sure about how much Parisians care about the park.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN At DLP, seems to me they make a big deal of selling those APs to guests who have a 1-day ticket... You see advertizement for APs everywhere, unlike WDW.
Originally Posted By basas Well...DLP needs AP's, unlike WDW. I'm not surprised MK is number one...has been for the last few years. Also, crowds are more apparent in DL (due to the smaller size...think of traffic on a 5 lane freeway, reduce it to 2 lanes, yes, it'll look busier). DL wasn't really that busy during any of the days i visited during the peak period of July...MK was pretty packed in July. Anyways, not surprising.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Numbers can be made to look however you want them to. At least that's what my accountant friends say.< as a former auditor - the phrase is: Figures Lie, and liars figure !
