Originally Posted By Doobie This topic is for Discussion of <a href="http://www.LaughingPlace.com/Latest.asp?I1=ID&I2=932" target="_blank">The Latest: Latest: Tokyo Disneyland Hotel to Open in Fiscal Y</a>
Originally Posted By leemac We posted the sketch from last year (the top image is from the press release) to show the evolution of the architectural style. I was surprised that it looks quite different and I don't find the building as Victorian in design as the March 2004 version. Lee
Originally Posted By trekkeruss Great, another deluxe hotel that I can't really afford to stay at. The only significant difference I see between the two concepts is the newer one has what looks like a golden onion dome.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 Wait.... "The new hotel will be built in front of Tokyo Disneyland Park, with the Disney Resort Line’s Tokyo Disneyland Station in between." Does this mean what I think it does? I thought it was going in a parking lot off to the side, but this makes it sound as if it's actually going right in front of the park, a-la Disneyland Paris. Is this true? That would be very interesting...and somewhat improve the utilitarian entrance that TDL has now.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 Also, if that's the case, it's going to be a real pain to get into the park while construction is going on!! DLP and TDS had the benefit of being built at the same time, but this? Oh, and I just realized that BOTH parks would have hotels as front gates now.
Originally Posted By leemac gurgitoy2 I think you misunderstood. The hotel is going on the existing parking lot with the Tokyo Resort Line station blocking the view of World Bazaar. The new parking garage will be alongside the hotel. Sadly it won't change the area between the monorail and park entrance.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 "Sadly it won't change the area between the monorail and park entrance." Oh, I think I understand now. It's a shame that they can't do something more fanciful and appropriate for that area between the station and park entrance though. It's so...pavement.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 Will this hotel be centered though? I mean will it's "center" be in line with the resort line station and park entrance? Hopefully so, and not off to the side to make things look non-symetrical.
Originally Posted By leemac That was the original plan. I don't know if that has fundamentally changed. I have no idea what sort of view those on the back of the hotel will have! The parking garage will look like TDS's one and be between the hotel and the official hotels (I guess on the current bus/coach parking?)
Originally Posted By leemac <<It's so...pavement.>> Yup but then it serves the purpose and enables OLC to get people in the park quicker. I'd love something better looking but it would impact queuing and entry. In light of how many people are there before opening, they need the pavement!
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I keep reading the short description over and over, the part that says: "Stepping through the main entrance on the third floor, Guests will find themselves in the most striking feature of the hotel: the spacious, brightly lit atrium lobby with its approximately 30-meter high ceiling. Descending to the first floor, guests will be able to move outside into a pleasant, spacious courtyard bordered by a restaurants and shops. Beyond this courtyard the monorail station and the entrance to Tokyo Disneyland will be waiting, promising fun things to come." That must mean the concept shows the courtyard view and how the hotel would appear from the monorail station, yes?
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Don't get me started about the space between the TDL Line station and the ticket windows... I absolutely *hate* what they have done to that area now.. Drastically reducing the size of the planters for more concrete is simply a bad call. The front of TDL now look barren. You could land a 747 in all that space!!! As for the hotel itself.... I am sure this will be a very beautiful hotel and probably more expensive than the Miracosta... However, I too worry about the back side of the facility.. I sure hope they have the common sense of making all rooms face towards TDL and leave all non-room, non-guest areas inthe back of the building. We'll see. As for the parking structure...it is my understanding it will be placed between the west side of the hotel and the auto plaza entrance, not where the bus/coach parking lot currently is.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< I am sure this will be a very beautiful hotel and probably more expensive than the Miracosta... >>> I was wondering about this - lee, do you know what the anticipated price point is in relation to the other two hotels? They seem to be focusing on the family aspect of the design, but the other facilities (such as restaurant mix) you have in a family-oriented hotel tend to be very different than those in a high-end hotel.
Originally Posted By leemac ^^ It is targeted at being a more expensive hotel than the Miracosta. Possibly marginally but the biggest complaint about both TDR hotels is the size of the rooms (and rightly so). I believe these rooms will be more akin to the space afforded guests of the HKDL Hotel. Trekkeruss, that would be right. TDLFAN, I've seen a few different plans for the parking structure. My understanding is that the OLC is keen to keep the hotel directly opposite the Resort Line station which would not leave room for the parking garage. I believe they will also struggle to get the ramps up the outside of the structure if it is there. However I'm not sure.
Originally Posted By SuperDry I think the room size of the Ambassador and Mira Costa rooms is just about the same. Comparing these to the HKDL Hotel, the latter didn't seem remarkably larger, and the bathroom setup was about the same. But maybe it was larger and this would be particularly noticable to a family with several children. The one thing I remember about the HKDL Hotel is the terrible selection of furniture, with chairs that in no way matched someone sitting at the desk.
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney I'd just like to know why every resort has to have its own Grand Floridian/victorian styled hotel. They are all so derivitive of the original, which itself borrows from the famous hotel in San Diego. Are there no original ideas? Or is it just cheaper to reuse the tried and true.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss Perhaps WDI feels that a Victorian style is the most apropos for a hotel named after the flagship parks, especially since the theme fits best with Main Street? Also, it could be argued that the Victorian era has the most poshness associated with it.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Are there no original ideas? Or is it just cheaper to reuse the tried and true.>> I don't think that is the case otherwise the HKDL Hotel would be a carbon copy of the Grand. It isn't in any way except for the exterior. I think a lot of it has to do with marketing. People regard the Victorians as great architects with grand visions. It ties into the spa concept. It is just easier to market your prestige hotel that way IMO.
