Originally Posted By Rebekah This topic is for discussion of the 4/16/2002 news item <b><a href="http://orlandosentinel.com/business/tourism/orl-aseccinderella16041602apr16.story" target="_blank">OrSen: Angels grab Cinderella seats</a></b> The April 16th <I>Orlando Sentinel</I> highlights "Howie's Angels", a group of people who collect Cinderella's Royal Table reservations and disperses them to others at no additional fee on the Disneynation.com discussion boards.
Originally Posted By sld2461 I have been trying for 8 months to get a reservation. I call at 7:00 and am told that they are already booked. Sometimes the operator gets nasty. One lady told me to call earlier! I asked her how I could call earlier than 7:00? I'll call at 6:56 and get a recording...push the redial, and I'm told they are all booked. That guy needs a life. If he likes booking dining reservations, give up the vet practice and work for Disney reservations. My daughter has been very disappointed. I am a Floridian and try every other day for the coveted 60 days away reservation. Credit Card deposits would put an end to it.
Originally Posted By LordNiekon Howies Angel's seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest over on RADP... and I must agree that this group of "Angels" is not exactly doing anyone a service... when Milady and I try in a couple of months to book our table you know I'm going to be quite cranky when I am unable to get my ressie. No one turns down the Toonfinder... lol... Apparently this guy is a real winner too... but I'm not going to go too far into that one.
Originally Posted By MiladyOfDisney Well there has been talk and mainly rumors right now that Disney will be asking for a Credit Card number for this reservation but like I said, that is just a rumor and we know how rumors are... Also, there has been quite some talk about people being blocked (mainly AOL users by the sounds of it) from the site that Howie goes through for those people who seem to be against what his little group is doing... Something about the usage of cookies to do this... in addition to this, it seems that the site Howie uses is becoming a members only site with the possibility of asking for a credit card number to even access it... I think they are using this tactic to keep the "protestors" from wanting access to those message boards to voice their dissent... I just wonder about the legalities of asking for Credit Card #s though... Anyway, that's how it seems to be standing right now...
Originally Posted By dixiedisneydiva Seems like they are not too far away from finding away for those ANGELS to "sell" the rights for a PS at Cindy's. I mean, require a fee to joint the site, then you can get "help" getting a reservation? Does anyone else see this perhaps developing or am I just becoming too cynical
Originally Posted By clamagic2 Well, I thought it was worthy of going to disneynation and making Rita aware of my ire so I sent the following: Rita, I'm sure that I am not the first to post regarding this theft of PS times for Cinderella's Castle. I am appalled that you would allow this deceptive practice to be promoted to enhance your web site. I am hopeful that Disney itself will put a stop to this "devilment" by requiring a credit card deposit in a name matching the reservation and will require picture ID to claim the reservation! As for me, I won't be visiting disneynation or any of it's advertisers again as long as Howie and his so called angels are stealing duplicate PS for this much loved character breakfast. Magically yours, Connie Alldredge Magical Memories Travel Planning Masters Graduate 2001 College of Disney Knowledge clamagic@wt.net And I received this reply: Get your facts straight first and then I will consider forwarding your lemming perspectives to Ms. Aero. Until you are able to prove your slanderous accusations, or even formulate a semblence of logic, please refrain from accessing my website. Thanks I must admit I think I have my facts just fine. (Disneynation even has an entire column dedicated to defending their policies with mathmatical equations showing how they are not really taking most of the tables!) And I really didn't have any problem "formulating my logic" (They cheat). Me thinks they doth protest too much. Interesting, no?
Originally Posted By tbrooks I tried every day for 60 days before my vacation (4/22/02 - 4/26/02) to try and get ps for Cinderella's breakfast without success. It doesn't matter if you start at 6:50 AM EST or 7AM EST they are still gone by 7:20 AM. I contacted WDW Resort Exec Office and spoke with a very nice woman there who mentioned to me they are aware of "Howie" and his angles. What they are going to do remains to be seen. But I will try again next year.
Originally Posted By LordNiekon I am really hoping that Disney steps in really soon to take care of this situation becasue we are preparing to do the daily calling thing this month and I refuse to have to hear the words "Sold Out" for this meal... but then again, that's just me and I get rather cranky at 4am PST just for being awake anyway...
Originally Posted By Disneybrad Since it hasn't been brought up here yet. Check this out. <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1349663003" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA PI.dll?ViewItem&item=1349663003</a> Someone acctually put a PS for CRT on Ebay, and Sold it for $56.00, plus $17. shipping of the Confirmation Number.
Originally Posted By clamagic2 Disneybrad, this just gets more disgusting by the minute! I know that we are in a free enterprise system but I have never been able to accept that there is so much injustice! People are so greedy. And in this case, they have taken so much of the joy out of this special character experience.
Originally Posted By bwanabob I hope Disney saw that too. That's terrible, but I'm not surprised. Gee, thanks, Angels.
Originally Posted By cstephens Disneybrad - Have you considered sending that link to Disney directly? In case they don't already know about it, it would be good to let them know. You could just go to the Disney website, go to the WDW link, and I'm figuring they have a "questions and comments" capability for WDW-related issues as they do for DL-related issues. You could mention that you just wanted to make sure to let them know about this, and ask if there's something they can do about it in the future as a free service provided by Disney is now being sucked up by profiteers and thereby boxing out Disney fans. Just a thought. /cs
Originally Posted By LordNiekon Grrrr... and I thought I was hating life for being up at 4am to try to even get a seating for Milady and I... things like this make me want to totally ignore the character meals within WDW for my entire trip. But at least we got Chef's Table for V&A's...
Originally Posted By Disneybrad If you any of you read R.A.D.P. on Usnet, this has been the main topic of conversation for almost the last month. Disney has had this link E-mailed to them Numerous times. The problem was, I don't think any one noticed it till the auction was almost over. And By Time anyone let Disney know, it was already sold.
