Originally Posted By DLFAN1979 Yet again, Disney takes a concept and goes OUT OF CONTROL, and themeing suffers for it. a PERMANENT Pirate overlay for French Market?? What does THAT have to do w/ OLD New Orleans?? Props from the ride in the BB Lobby!?? That lobby is CLASS. What could they POSSIBLY put in there. Which begs the ques. WHAT DID THEY TAKE OUT OF POTC!!!????????????????? THis is god god awfull and i hope this Pirate hype blows over so we can have our OLD OLD NoS BACK!
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Originally Posted By SuzieQ *sigh* Pirates and New Orleans go back hundreds of years. Pirates are a HUGE part of New Orleans history! It's a perfect sense overlay.
Originally Posted By dzy76 I, too, love the old NOS theming. Hope they don't overdo it too much. Maybe it will be subtle and shortlived? One can hope.
Originally Posted By SuzieQ Jean Lafitte, one of the pirates depicted on the walls of the queue was famous in New Orleans. "South of New Orleans lies Barataria, a pirate enclave that gained prominence during the War of 1812. To enter the bay, pilots navigated ships through a narrow passage between two islands, Grande Terre and Grand Isle, that protected Barataria Bay from the Gulf of Mexico. Legend says the French who first came to the region so named it because it reminded them of Sancho Panza’s unattainable island kingdom in Cervantes’ Don Quixote. Its nearness to New Orleans—a three-day journey by pirogue through the bayous—and its relative inaccessibility attracted many pirates, including Blackbeard. By 1811, the area flourished as a pirate haven and several hundred people lived there. The person most associated with Barataria, however, is Jean Laffite. This gentleman pirate organized the Baratarians into a group of smuggling privateers who provided the elite of New Orleans with luxuries plundered from Spanish ships under a letter of marque from Cartagena. Aside from building a home he dubbed Maison Blanche, Laffite erected cafés, taverns, a hospital, brothels, and other buildings to make Barataria a thriving community. The enclave also included warehouses for plundered goods and barracoons for captured slaves. Laffite’s constant avoidance in paying customs and flouting of the law, however, made him a thorn in Governor William Claiborne’s side. In September 1814, while Laffite was absent from Grande Terre, the American navy destroyed his pirate haven. " <a href="http://www.cindyvallar.com/havens2.html" target="_blank">http://www.cindyvallar.com/hav ens2.html</a>
Originally Posted By mickey42397 So, if you were in New Orleans, lets say old New Orleans, would you think that it would be so "out of place" to see some pirate-related decor ? I mean, really, have you ever been to New Orleans ? Have you been to hotels and restaurants and gotten the feel of New Orleans ? It is most definitely appropriate. If Walt didn't think so, why would he have built POTC and New Orleans Square ? Old New Orleans and pirates go hand in hand. As for the props, probably they will be something very appropriate. Perhaps some treasure from the old treasure scene that has been updated, or some decoration from the Captain's bedroom or something. Don't worry, I doubt that you will see the PC pirates chasing food around inside the entrance to the BB. Relax, take a deep breath, it is going to be okay........
Originally Posted By DLFAN1979 i am very well aware the history of Piracy in New Orleans, however this is New Orleans SQUARE at DISNEYLAND we are talkign about. WALTS NoS!They are having the movie compleetly take ho;d on an entire land thereby, RE THEMING a WHOLE LAND!!! I mean really the French Market is NOT meant to be a Pirate anything and the Blue Bayou is supposed to be a plantaion house! So Pirate stuff belongs there LESS. And WHAT IN THE WORLD DID THEY TAKE OUT OF PotC to retheme restaurants??
Originally Posted By DLFAN1979 And also, WHERE are we going to to hear REAL NoS bands now that Ent. seems hell bent on shoving this "pirate band" down our throats?? Is DL cutting them?? Are they going on hiatus?? LIke i said, PIRATES could be the END of NoS as we knew it.
Originally Posted By friendofdd One little known fact about SuzieQ is that she is a great, great, great grandaughter of Jean Lafitte. Because of this she has quietly been buying large shares of Disney, paying with gold doubloons, and is now using her shareholder influence to force a pirate makeover of NOS. She also has a skull and crossbones tattoo on her...., well, nevermind that.
Originally Posted By DlandDug Have we actually seen any of this? Or are we simply overreacting to what MIGHT be happening?
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt While this is hardly anything to get riled up over, I do agree somewhat with DLFAN that Disney has gone overboard with the movie character tie-ins at the parks (if that is indeed his/her point). A perfect example is the horrible Buzz Lightyear theming at the old Tomorrowland Terrace. A Johnny Depp likeness inside the Blue Bayou might be a bit more than I can take. On the other hand, if they are just adding a few pirate props, photos, etc., then so be it.
Originally Posted By Dave >>>>One little known fact about SuzieQ is that she is a great, great, great grandaughter of Jean Lafitte<<< And when fully grown she could weight up to 5000 pounds and over jump 25 feet.
Originally Posted By mickey42397 <Blue Bayou is supposed to be a plantaion house! So Pirate stuff belongs there LESS. > Poppycock ! Pirate stuff doesn't belong at the Blue Bayou ??!!!??!?!? No, they just built the restaurant to overlook the ride and made it part of Laffite's Landing and give little pirate hats with the kids menu printed on them and give you mint doubloons at the end of your meal because the BB has nothing to do with pirates, much less POTC. DO YOU KNOW HOW RIDICULOUS THAT SOUNDS ?????? If it weren't for PIRATES of the Caribbean, there would be no BB. Any pirate additions to NoS would just enhance the area and make it more historically acurate. They are not going to turn the whole thing into Port Royal with prostitutes and filthy drunken pirates sitting around in the streets. More pirate merchandise and a temporary increase in POTC-the-movies-related entertainment, yes. Total re- themeing of a land, no.
Originally Posted By SIR at X-S Tech I got the impression that the pirates overlay for French market was temporary. Could be wrong I'm much more upset that according to mouseplanet, the lighting for the Blue Bayou has been "Much improved". What's that mean? Better mean that they've changed to longer burning candles on the tables. Gotta keep the moonlight.
Originally Posted By mickey42397 <One little known fact about SuzieQ is that she is a great, great, great grandaughter of Jean Lafitte. Because of this she has quietly been buying large shares of Disney, paying with gold doubloons, and is now using her shareholder influence to force a pirate makeover of NOS. She also has a skull and crossbones tattoo on her...., well, nevermind that.> Yes, and I am her sister's third cousin's half sister-in-law (who was half-adopted)(by marriage)(twice removed) and I, too, have been secretly buying up stock, only I pay with mint doubloons, and I will use all of my shareholder influence to force Disney to put a couple of pieces of artwork and treasure in the entrance of the BB. Then, when I have succeeded, I will force them to make me a Captain Jack AA and place it in my bedroom. Ha !
Originally Posted By JuiceMonkey Well, I just hope this movie is as good as the last one. And that the third one is, too. This extreme synergy before the fact makes me uncomfortable.
Originally Posted By oc_dean I understand some prefer the classy elegance of many aspects to New Orleans Square ... but pirate sheninanigans were a part of history with the real New Orleans .. so for now, (as part marketing for the film) ... this does thematically fit the land. Doesn't have to last forever. The film will play out through the summer .. and by year's end .. it will all most likely fade away .. as Christmas decorations takeover.
Originally Posted By allygator206 Personally, I've always associated NOS with pirates. Not to mention Walt did originally plan the Haunted Mansion and POTC to be directly linked and what remains of that planned link can still be seen today. Considering those are the two major attractions in the land, it makes sense for the pirate presence to be threaded throughout NOS. Just my take...
