Originally Posted By cstephens <a href="http://www.colddeadfish.net/dlr/dlr120207tr.html" target="_blank">http://www.colddeadfish.net/dl r/dlr120207tr.html</a> - For anyone who's interested, I've posted a report which includes information about lunch at Redd Rockett's Pizza Port and the precious commodities there, some pictures from Santa's Reindeer Roundup, the second place at Disneyland where holidays collide, some decorations in Critter Country and inside Pooh Corner, holiday treats and December's fudge flavor of the month, and preparing for the next holiday. Thanks! /cs
Originally Posted By seanyoda Thanks for the update. BTW, Rudolph's not at the Roundup because Disney doesn't want to pay for the rights. This is the same reason why walk-around reindeer Pluto no longer sports a red nose.
Originally Posted By cstephens Someone on another board also mentioned the rights thing. I get the character usage, though I would argue that Pluto using a red nose is parody, but I wouldn't think just putting his name on a bucket with no likeness would be an issue. Still, too bad for Rudolph. /cs
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I'm sure if they really wanted to put up a Rudolhp bucket, they could say it was for Eric Rudolph, who, after doing several bombings including the one at the Atlanta Olympics, hid in the woods of North Carolina for about 6 years and was eventually found not too far from where I had gone camping several times. Leaving a bucket of food is certainly something that might be done for him, but I'm not entirely sure if Southern California natives would get it, or if Disney would think it was anywhere near appropriate to have a reference to in its theme park.
Originally Posted By knoxvelour From Wiki: The story is owned by The Rudolph Company, L.P. and has been sold in numerous forms including a popular song, a television special (done in stop motion animation), and a feature film. Rudolph was created by Robert L. May in 1939 as part of his employment with Montgomery Ward. Character Arts, LLC [1] manages the licensing for the Rudolph Company, L.P. Although the story and song have not passed into public domain, they have established themselves as folklore (as evidenced by the development of local variations and parodies such as "Deadeye the Lonesome Cowboy," collected in the field by Simon J. Bronner and included in "American Children's Folklore"). Earlier generations of folklorists would have rejected the possibility, and some contemporary scholars (e.g., Lucy Rollins[1]) continue to classify the case as fakelore, much as Paul Bunyan has been criticized as an authentic folk hero. At all events, the story demonstrates the complex relationship between mass-culture and folklore.
Originally Posted By cstephens Given that the info comes from Wikipedia, there's no way to know what exactly is true and what isn't. BTW, I did notice that the big fig is back in stock of Mickey dressed as Santa and Pluto with antlers and a red nose. If there was a problem with Rudolph, I'm surprised they can still sell that big fig. /cs
Originally Posted By knoxvelour Granted, Wikipedia is a dubious source. But I do remember hearing the Montgomery Ward thing a long time ago. i also remember hearing Rudolph was named after Valentino
Originally Posted By knoxvelour Snopes is pretty reputable source though <a href="http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/rudolph.asp" target="_blank">http://www.snopes.com/holidays /christmas/rudolph.asp</a>
Originally Posted By marypoppins3 The stores also sell a pluto Christmas hat that has antlers and a light up red nose. Its okay for Pluto to dress up as Rudolph..but not to have a real reindeer and say it is THE Rudolph without licensing approval.
